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Default Hybrid Test 1.0, What Buffeting?

I've been dragging my feet for a couple of months on removing my CCT lowers in favor of the Victory forged bars, Victory forged bar highway pegs and JTD Lowers. I had the JTD lowers and the forged bar tops color matched to my CCT about 8 weeks ago. Tonight I removed my right side CCT lower and installed the forged bar and the highway peg without the JTD lower. I wanted to do a standard 'step' test of changing only one thing at a time to evaluate the buffeting differences between the CCT lowers and the forged bars. I've been reading the horror stories of Cross bike buffeting long before I bought my CCT in the Summer of 2013.

So on the right side I have the forged bar with the highway peg going commando, no JTD lower. On the left side I have the full oem CCT lower setup. I greatly enjoy the aesthetics of the forged bar setup. IMHO, these bikes just look 'right' with them. Anyway, a quick 25 mile high speed (80 to 90) highway run produced no buffeting at all. I mean none. I also didn't feel any engine/exhaust heat pooling in front of or behind my right upper leg. The familiar heat pooling was present on my left leg. I didn't even see the familiar red glow of the right exhaust reflecting off the front belt cover. Oh sure, when it rains, my shins would be soaked through in quick order. But my calves won't get hot in 95F+ degree temperatures.

I have a 15" 7jurock windshield on my oem CCT brackets which I've had for a couple of years now. It's the same width, just 3" lower than the oem CCT shield. I was wearing my Shark Evoline ST 3 helmet, in full face mode, which is also standard fare for me. I've also been running the Victory ape handlebars for the last 10K miles.

Tomorrow afternoon the left CCT lower assembly will be removed in favor of the Victory forged bar and Victory forged bar highway peg setup. Both sides will be going commando. Once I fully test the commando version of the forged bar setup, I'll add the JTD lowers for another step in the evaluation process.

I have the Victory billet floorboards with matching billet shift/brake pegs. I also added the matching billet foot pegs in favor of the foot pegs that come standard with the Victory forged bar highway pegs. It's a sweet looking setup for sure. I first tried the pegs in the 'lower' position by installing the left peg bracket on the right side. But it placed the highway peg too close to the foot brake. I was quick to remove the left bracket and install the right bracket on the right side.

More buffeting testing to come.
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As I said in the other forum, I'm eagerly awaiting your results....
Maybe @broggyr can post a pic of his CCT with forged bars.....This setup really looks great

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I too am eager for results , great write up Mark !

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1) Please post pictures
2) Do you find it necessary to remove the wind controls from the bottom of the upper fairing?

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2) Do you find it necessary to remove the wind controls from the bottom of the upper fairing?
The fairing winglets do have to come off when going to forged bars.
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As I said in the other forum, I'm eagerly awaiting your results....
Maybe @broggyr can post a pic of his CCT with forged bars.....This setup really looks great
Here ya go. I'm really digging this look.
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If you can swing the forged bars, I'd suggest you get them. I installed the left forged bar and peg tonight and did the same road test from last night. Is there some air coming up under the tank? Yes. Was it an issue for me, no, not at all. To remove the heat pooling around my upper and lower legs is very nice and well worth it. I wear a modular (full face) helmet as well as my BFC vest. If I wore a loose fitting t-shirt or something, I suspect it would move around some. I don't smoke but I think it could be done with the forged bars at speed.

I was sent a front air dam by forum member jjpilot to test. It's a bit smaller than the ones he's posting about since he made it to fit with the forged bars. I'll install that tomorrow and go for another ride to see how much that effects the air coming up under the tank. But like I said, I don't have an issue with it at this point. My head is not getting battered around from buffeting, not at all. This has been a very hot Summer and the CCT lowers are usually fine when I'm moving but when I get caught in traffic, my right calf feels like it's baking. Because it is. Plus I get hot air pooling in front and behind my upper legs and seat area. This is simply not the case with the forged bars. In hind sight, I should have installed these a year ago.

I still have the option to mount the color matched JTD lowers or the Victory vinyl forged bar air dam. I held the JTD right lower in place tonight in the garage and well, it looks great!

One of the reasons I waited to get the forged bars was I like ease of having my phone in the left CCT lower. I thought I was going to have to move it to the saddlebag which would basically ruin using the iHeart radio app after most start ups. Come to find out the harness for the CCT left lower phone/12VDC outlet was very easy to route up along the left side of the handlebar. I simply tie wrapped it to the existing wires along the left side of the handlebar. It connects to the main harness at the front of the tank anyway.

Victory used to have a nice machined aluminum brake or clutch half moon mount that would hold up to 3 RAM balls. I'm glad I bought one for each side while they were still available. So the RAM X-Grip I have on the left side works great for my iPhone and the audio system works just like it did before. Of course the phone isn't in a rain proof place anymore. Nothing a zip lock bag can't help with because that's what I use for my GPS when I mount it on the left side. I have a RAM cup holder on the right side as well as a toll road transponder when I'm in an area that has toll roads.

All in all, I'm very glad to have mounted the forged bars onto my CCT. I won't sell my CCT lowers but I'm also not sure when or if they'll go back onto my CCT.
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Thank you for your time and that excellent write up......I'm going to strongly consider going to forged bars because I love the look.

@Diamond Jim was kind enough to include me in a test run of his prototype "tank wings" to control buffeting, with these I may not need any forward(on the forks or highway bars) deflectors and can have FULL air flow and cooling. More on these later

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... prototype "tank wings" to control buffeting, with these I may not need any forward(on the forks or highway bars) deflectors and can have FULL air flow and cooling. More on these later
Looking forward to hearing about these. While I am pretty much set with no buffeting, I'd still like to know more!

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Here ya go. I'm really digging this look.
Looks good! I am REALLY digging the LED pods you have mounted at the turn signal stalks. Pretty bright I assume? What brand did you go with?

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Looks good! I am REALLY digging the LED pods you have mounted at the turn signal stalks. Pretty bright I assume? What brand did you go with?
Yep, pretty dang bright.
I have them wired into the high beam circuit so I don't blind oncoming cars.

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