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post #1 of 45 (permalink) Old 03-15-2017, 09:32 AM Thread Starter
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Default Old problem, never resolved, need Help!-KevinX please read!

Posted this about 1 year ago, never got it resolved. Been to 2 Vic shops, nobody can figure it out.
About 2 years ago my bike started showing systems of bad battery when starting. Would barely turnover when hit the start switch. Radio, seat & grip heaters off, in neutral no unusual draw and “INTERMITTANTLY” would sound like I was going to be stranded. Other times, perfect. Checked all wires, battery cables, ground…. All perfect… then ordered new battery. Well, didn’t fix it. Replaced front breaker (one up behind battery case), nope not fixed. Pulled start switch, no corrosion and cleaned it. We ALL rechecked battery, charger… no issues. Does it cold or hot, both bike and weather, wet or dry, whether coming off a charger or days of sitting. Always Intermittent, you never know. As I said 2 Vic shops had it happen, nobody could locate. One simply said replace starter. That was 1 year ago.
REALLY annoying. Anyone out there got an idea? KevinX, if you’ve got a clue, I’ll drive up and let you fix it! Just need to have parts in stock so I’m not stranded.

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Sorry, I don't really have an answer for you other than to suggest you call Kevin. My understanding is that he is quite generous with his time and will try to help you over the phone. But I think his time is limited due to being busy so I don't think he checks in here regularly.

Just a shot in the dark, but perhaps it might be a problem with the brushes in the starter. Here is a thread that might be helpful if you decide to take the starter apart and check it:

https://www.victoryforums.com/34-vict...p-starter.html

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Thanks for that. Pulling and cleaning my starter is beyond my technical ability, tools, and space... so possibly the hours of labor to a mechanic would be more than a new starter. Just hate to pay for one if it's not the issue.

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This suggestion is easier said than done, but keep a multi-meter with you and when the problem decides to show up check for power at the starter when you hit the switch. If there is a lack of power at the starter then the problem is before the starter. If there is power at the starter then I'm guessing your starter needs to be serviced or replaced.

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MTVic

hardest part with the starter is taking everything off.
Long as Kevinx can't come to you maybe this will help. If you and a Buddy pull the starter a auto electric shop can repair it cheaper then new


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Subscribed and very interesting in this subject, hope you can fix or get it fixed....

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Great video. As I mentioned though, I do have power all the way to starter. Always. Always attempts to start, never get "no groan" Not sure if it always same amps though as intermittent problem and getting it to reproduce consistently enough is tough to test. When occurs barely turns over and you have to quickly press 2-3 times to get motor engaged. 5 minutes later or 5 hours may start right up the way it should. I'd gladly ride to Gainesville area if I knew it was reproducible enough to get Kevin a good chance to diagnose and repair. As I said local mechanics only guessed starter since they could get it to act up enough to figure out. You'd think starter would have given up the ghost by now if it was the starter. If I was sure it was, it be replaced or rebuilt by now. Anyone know a website to show how to pull the damn thing? Anyone sell rebuilt if I send core?

I want to add to this doesn't make the sound of a bad starter, that high pitch whine and still turn over a few times, only groans out a slight crank turn, quits just like a bad battery. Never more than a partial revolution when acting up.

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Well I'm in Sebring not to far, probably 2 hours depending. Look on a map for US 27 and SR 64 thats pretty close. Sounds to me as it could be starter it's self, as mentioned brushes or maybe armature. Has it done it since new or just back 2 yr say. Can you video it on your phone, that might help. when it acts up what does you amp meter in dash do? Let me look on my XCT and see what it looks like to pull the starter. I'm off the rest of this week. I think someone said Kevin is up in Daytona this week.

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Started little over 2 years ago. Was perfect new, even cold weather. Everyone is guessing starter, nobody sure. OEM is $350. After market found one $180. As I said I'd be happy to replace it, if I was sure that was the problem. Good idea about video, may try to crap the thing out for good shooting some since intermittent. If you have experience replacing one would be happy to drive down and buy you a lunch/dinner. Was just in Ormond Beach for day, but not down near Smyrna and doubt Kevin would have had the time to look at or the resources. Who knows if it would have even showed its ugly side too.

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MT I hate to just throw parts at it. Especially being a new starter off e-bay is just under $80. Solenoid if it is going click every time you hit the button sounds like that part is working fine.

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