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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 05-23-2017, 03:54 PM Thread Starter
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Wondering if anyone is running an aftermarket HID low beam and a modulator that runs on the high beam. Is it worth putting the HID in the low side for daytime? Do you think anyone is going to see the modulated hi beam anyways with an HID low? I know from a previous bike the HID at night is far superior to the standard halogen.

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I have the HID for both low and high but thus far haven't used the highs since I haven't been out after dark. Mommy won't let me. ;-)

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I am a fan of the modulator used 'em for decades. I have a handlebar mounted switch for it and use it as my "light horn" on the low beam as that is what I ride with. High beam is seldom used - only at night for added visibility. I have an HID in the high beam position and an LED in the low. An LED can abide a modulator, but an HID can not.

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Yea modulator on HID is a no go. My last bike I had an HID bi-xenon. One bulb was both and a little motor tilted the bulb for hi beam sort of. But I figured with the XCT I could run the HID in the low beam have plenty of light and probably never use the high beam at night. LOL I got it and its free so guess I can try and not worry about being out the $$.

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I ran a modulator on a bike, almost 20 years ago. As RicZ says, very noticeable. In my case, I decided that I didn't really want to draw that much attention to myself, as I often ride a bit over the speed limit, but it was a trade-off.

In any event, I think I'm missing something regarding your question. If you modulate the (halogen) high beam, won't the (HID) low beam be off at the time? I almost never ride at night, but doesn't the low beam go off when you switch on the high beam on these bikes?

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Bill P.---Like your's, the low beam stays on when the headlight is switched to high beam.

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Bill P.---Like your's, the low beam stays on when the headlight is switched to high beam.
Ah, thanks -- never really noticed (as I say, not being a night rider).

Then @djh3 has an interesting point: having the HID going 100%, with the halogen modulating, would probably take away some or much of the effect of the modulation. I've never seen (or read about, or heard of) a multi-headlight-on/modulation setup like that. @djh3, if you want to get complicated, you could set up a double-relay configuration, such that turning on the high beam turned off the low beam; this would require a bunch of work and splicing, etc., and may not be worth it.

Another option would be to replace the HID low beam -- although it's a really nice feature that they put on the '12 XCTs -- with a halogen, and modulate that.

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isn't LED's brighter then HID's

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I'm very pleased with my arrangement - LED low and HID high with a switchable modulator on the low. The HID is not significantly brighter than the LED. The only drawback is, since it takes a few seconds for the HID high to warm, using it as a flash-to-pass is out of the question. However, switching on the modulator gets better results and comes off less hostile to other drivers.

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I'm very pleased with my arrangement - LED low and HID high with a switchable modulator on the low. The HID is not significantly brighter than the LED. The only drawback is, since it takes a few seconds for the HID high to warm, using it as a flash-to-pass is out of the question. However, switching on the modulator gets better results and comes off less hostile to other drivers.
Interesting setup, Ric.

When folks purchase an LED headlight, do they have to be concerned about whether it's dimmable? I know that when I buy LED bulbs for the house, some say that they can be used on dimmer circuits, and some say they can't.

And modulators for bikes have to dim and then brighten the "bulb" in the circuit, right? I mean, it's my understanding that a bike modulator is not allowed to just switch it on and off, per the federal regs on this stuff. Correct?

Put another way, I had never heard of LEDs being used in a modulator setup ... but I hope I learn at least one new thing each day.

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