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post #1 of 6 (permalink) Old 08-11-2017, 05:14 PM Thread Starter
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Somewhat new to this forum, but I've searched and haven't found this posted.

I have a 2013 CCT, and my wife and I ride 2 up with half helmets. I'm looking to add an intercom (rider to passenger) system, and am wondering if anyone has a system they use with half or 3/4 helmets without face shields. I have to ride with glasses, so I don't want to have to be behind the windshield, a faceshield, and glasses (too many layers of distortion). I run the Madstad windshield system too.

I've researched, and the Sena SMH10 seems to be the most recommended, but I can't seem to find anyone that states that it works with an open face helmet with no shield. I'm a bit reluctant to shell out for new 3/4 helmets and $300 for the intercom if I can't confirm that this should work fine.

I only need the Sena for the intercom, and I'd like to BT connect my GPS, but I will stick with the tunes on the bike speakers, which work fine for our purposes.

Last bit of info, we also tend to ride with ear plugs, so I'd like to know if the Sena will be audible with a 3/4 helmet and ear plugs.

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post #2 of 6 (permalink) Old 08-11-2017, 08:04 PM
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My wife and I use the SENA SMH10 system but not from rider to passenger but, rather, between bikes (we each ride our own). We ride 90% with half helmets and the sound is great. However, there is one caveat. You have to get the accessory bracket that allows the use of your own ear buds. This is the SMH-A0303 bracket. In addition, you need to use good quality (~$40) in the ear canal style ear buds. These simultaneously block out the road and wind noise while simultaneously delivering the voice over intercom, GPS directions, or music. I can't say enough good about how these work. I've made business calls on my XCT at 60 mph without a problem although much higher than this and you will have to close all the air (lowers and uppers) to allow a reasonable phone call. For a short conversation via intercom, even at 80 mph, you can just cup your hand over the wind side of the boom microphone.

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The wife and I ride with Sena headsets in full face helmets. Our helmets are cheap models of Bell branding, and are very loud. The Sena 10S headsets have plenty of output that we can talk like we are calmly sitting next to each other, even when we are both riding with earplugs in. I have also paired the set with my phone and have called her while riding home from work. She doesn't know I'm on the bike unless I tell her, or if I really grab the throttle. The microphones are programmed to ignore most engine sounds and wind noise. I highly recommend them.
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I use a 3/4 helmet without a face shield with our Sena 20S intercoms. The wife uses a full helmet. I've had no problem hearing and understanding her at any time. However the speakers are crap for music. So the fact that it will pull in FM stations isn't worth anything.

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We have the Bell Mag 9 that is built to accept the SMH 10. I was kind of mis lead on the deal, I was under the presumption that the unit would snap in and I would be ready to go. Not so much, it still requires a $35+ bracket/mount. Over all they work well. Shop around you can get a 2 unit set for decent money. I also have a unit on my 1/2 helmet, but I pretty much only use it solo. I have modified it so I can use earbuds on it. As mentioned the music side of these is not great. I modified my 3/4 helmet so I can plug in ear plugs/buds. I still have the speakers installed in and they turn off when ear buds are plugged in.
Also if you decide later to bluetooth the bike radio, be aware it takes a completely different harness than the later model XCT. You can get away with only one dongle as you can music share off yours.

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I don't think that ANY stereo system based on non-ear bud speakers whether mounted on the helmet or on the bike provides good sound that can be heard above about 55 mph. The ambient noise is just too loud. Any level of music that could deliver sound you could hear would be damaging to your hearing since it has to overcome the road noise which is....damaging to your hearing. The only decent solution I have found which both protects your hearing and delivers good sound is to use a device which simultaneously blocks out the ambient wind/road noise and also delivers the music sound. The one device that will do this is an in-the-ear-canal type earbud headphone. It doesn't have to be a great one costing $100 or more but it should not be a crappy one that costs $19. I have found that the ones costing about $50 do a great job of blocking the ambient noise, staying in my ears, and delivering music at a non-damaging level. It is important to find the slip-on ear bud parts that fit your ears and stay in place. I found that the silicone type get slippery from ear wax and will not stay in my ears for a long ride. It is possible but quite awkward to push these back into my ears while riding. I use a foam type slip on ear bud.

SENA sells a mounting bracket designed to accept the standard (3.5 mm?) headphone jack. I merely bought this bracket, bought the SENA SMH10 device, and bought the proper ear bud headphones. Then I stuff all the extra headphone wire into the tight space between the half helmet outer shell and the foam inner. I leave the ear bud with about 2 inches of wire dangling from each edge of the half-helmet immediately above each ear. This gives me just enough wire to insert the ear buds and the wire never gets tangled.

This simultaneously protects my hearing by blocking out the road/wind noise (well known to getsto damaging levels above about 50 mph) and delivers all the sound that the SENA can deliver (GPS, music, phone calls, and intercom).

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