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Default Dark Side tires for the XC - is there a consensus on what to buy? & Why "run flat"?

I'm looking to do this next Friday, so I thought I would check with the gang and see what you guys are running these days.

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Many folks say runflats are better because they have a stronger sidewall, and others will say to stay away from them. If you're on Facebook, there is a Darkside group which talks about all aspects of darksiding.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/rollindarkside/
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I'm currently running a Bridgestone Driveguard run flat 195/55/16 that matches the height of an OEM rear tire.

On the front I'm running a Bridgestone Battlax BT45 Motorcycle Tire which is a rear motorcycle tire (MT).

This combination has served me well as long as I keep the air pressure up where it should be. Different people will like different air pressure, especially on the rear, but I like it pretty close to what the OEM should be; about 40 psi front and rear. This gives me a nice sure-footed ride. YMMV, FWIW, JMHO.

I definitely recommend a TPMS system which are very affordable these days.

Tire preferences change because tire manufacturers in all their wisdom discontinue tires all the time; even highly liked ones. They are usually replaced with a newer better and of course; more expensive model though.

For a long time the Dunlop Winter Sport with its soft top layer of tread giving a nice sticky feel and the tire being a 175 wide put it at about what the stock tire was but they stopped making those and people branched out to other, wider, run flat tires and liked them just as much getting better mileage out of them.

I think there's a Commander tire that people are saying they get 20k miles or more out of. For a lot of people; that negates the reason for running a CT but then there's still that run flat safety feature a lot of people, me included, have really come to like. Especially on the back which is harder to get at on a trip which means it tends to be neglected more. Another good reason for the TPMS.
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For the dark side guys, some Interesting stuff about winter tires on summer roads...

https://youtu.be/Lrz14n4vVkQ

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The brake test results if the video are:

Winter & Summer tire brake distance on summer roads

Bridgestone Blizzak WS80
Brake test 1: 127.7 ft
Brake test 2: 134.2 ft
Brake test 3: 134.9 ft

Yokohama Geolander G95
Brake test 1: 123 ft
Brake test 2: 124 ft
Brake test 3: 126 ft

So in worst case scenario it is 10 ft more braking distance on a winter tire comparison to a summer tire on a warm road surface

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For the dark side guys, some Interesting stuff about winter tires on summer roads...

https://youtu.be/Lrz14n4vVkQ
I tried to watch that but that guy is waaaaaay too long-winded.

Can you tell us in one sentence what he said?
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unless your hacking running car tyres illegal in some states that can void your insurance coverage makes NO sense to me, but of course its your choice!!
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unless your hacking running car tyres illegal in some states that can void your insurance coverage makes NO sense to me, but of course its your choice!!
I've heard people say that before only to find out it was wishful thinking on the part of certain riders. If the tires were illegal on a motorcycle then they have to be illegal and non-insurable on a car.

Please provide a link to one state and one place where they say running darkside is illegal and one insurance company that says they won't pay for a bike involved in a crash if they are running a darkside tire. They would have to prove the tire itself was responsible for the crash or at least contributed to it. So far, to my knowledge, no one has proven this myth to be true.
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Bbob the video basical said the winter tire when it got warm would not as fast as a summer tire.

I'm with you on what states say you can't run a CT or what insurance company says you can't run a CT. Someone would have to prove that the CT was the reason for the crash.
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I hope you linked to the right tire, because I just followed your link and ordered it Thanks for the info and I'm about to go order a TPMS.


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I'm currently running a Bridgestone Driveguard run flat 195/55/16 that matches the height of an OEM rear tire.

On the front I'm running a Bridgestone Battlax BT45 Motorcycle Tire which is a rear motorcycle tire (MT).

This combination has served me well as long as I keep the air pressure up where it should be. Different people will like different air pressure, especially on the rear, but I like it pretty close to what the OEM should be; about 40 psi front and rear. This gives me a nice sure-footed ride. YMMV, FWIW, JMHO.

I definitely recommend a TPMS system which are very affordable these days.

Tire preferences change because tire manufacturers in all their wisdom discontinue tires all the time; even highly liked ones. They are usually replaced with a newer better and of course; more expensive model though.

For a long time the Dunlop Winter Sport with its soft top layer of tread giving a nice sticky feel and the tire being a 175 wide put it at about what the stock tire was but they stopped making those and people branched out to other, wider, run flat tires and liked them just as much getting better mileage out of them.

I think there's a Commander tire that people are saying they get 20k miles or more out of. For a lot of people; that negates the reason for running a CT but then there's still that run flat safety feature a lot of people, me included, have really come to like. Especially on the back which is harder to get at on a trip which means it tends to be neglected more. Another good reason for the TPMS.

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I hope you linked to the right tire, because I just followed your link and ordered it Thanks for the info and I'm about to go order a TPMS.
Well, I also sent you a link via PM to do some research on your own, but if you have the same good luck as I have with mine then all should be well.

All we can do is give the best info we can and let the reader decide for themselves.

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