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I saw and sat on what could be the updated and refined CC and CCT today. I was all over the 2018 Yamaha Eluder today at a dealer in Seneca, NC on my way home. It's the silver one with the black and red accent stripes. I didn't ride it but I was able to sit on it, run through the electronics, open all the compartments and listen to it idle in the showroom. Another dealer I should be near tomorrow has the new Venture Trans Continental on their showroom floor.

First off, I am NOT in the market for a new motorcycle. My 2012 CCT is very safe for the foreseeable future. I'm not even done adding modifications to it. Perhaps the Revolution Performance 117" kit will be up and coming. But, only after a new drive belt, fork fluid flush and the installation of my Reverse Kit.

The Eluder, to me, looked really nice. I saw a lot of Victory Cross bike influence with things like the center ridge and the big boy floor boards. Even the fairing with its lowers seemed like it could have been on a drawing board somewhere with the Victory design team. The handlebars were adjusted way too close to the tank but otherwise the ergonomics fit me quite well. I'l 5'10.5' with a 31" inseam. The saddlebags are a bit smaller than they look somewhat due to the smaller opening compared to the exterior dimensions.

I'll fully admit to being biased in favor of the Cross bike styling as I love it and I'm so used to it. But seing these two bikes side by side, the Cross bikes have a 'cleaner' and a 'sleeker' look to them. The only nit I've ever had with the aesthetics of the Yamaha 113" engine is it has a lot of angles, nooks and crannies. Especially compared to the Victory 106". The saddlebag design of the Cross bikes is also a big plus with me with the open lid exposing the entire interior of the bag.

Before I bought my CCT I spent a bit of time on the Raider and Stratoliner forums. At the time, there were certainly companies offering mods to increase the power and torque of the 113". So I'd guess that part of the market will be growing with these two new models.

I asked but the dealer rep wasn't sure if the Venture trunk will be a quick on/off design like the CCT. I'll be glad to run these new bikes through a demo ride this year. But I will NOT be telling my wife the Venture has a heated backrest and passenger hand grips.

Maybe someday some actual drawings will be shown of what would/could have been the next generation of the Victory Cross bikes. Oh well, I'm glad a company like Yamaha saw fit to fill the gap of the MIA 2018 Cross bikes. I wish them all the best and hope they sell far better than their wildest dreams.

The dealer does have two late model Polaris Cheiftains in their used bike line up. One is the Dark version and the other a red/cream one.

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I think this the 1800 motor was said to be the master for the HD M8 COPY lol

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Looks great in person IMHO. But yes, the silver one is the one I was looking at today. Even the black and red stripes have a 'Magnum" theme to them.

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I love that bike. Maybe I'm not too old.
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No way are you too old and the way you put the miles on; something like this could be in your future.
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The black with the red stripe wheels remind me of the old 1980 HD Sturgis FXB. A Shovelhead back in the day.



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I think they did a great job on it. I only buy American motorcycles though, In ten years Ill be on an Indian, and HD might be shut down or based in Thailand. At least their days in Milwaukee might be over soon.

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I saw and sat on what could be the updated and refined CC and CCT today. I was all over the 2018 Yamaha Eluder today at a dealer in Seneca, NC on my way home. It's the silver one with the black and red accent stripes. I didn't ride it but I was able to sit on it, run through the electronics, open all the compartments and listen to it idle in the showroom. Another dealer I should be near tomorrow has the new Venture Trans Continental on their showroom floor.

First off, I am NOT in the market for a new motorcycle. My 2012 CCT is very safe for the foreseeable future. I'm not even done adding modifications to it. Perhaps the Revolution Performance 117" kit will be up and coming. But, only after a new drive belt, fork fluid flush and the installation of my Reverse Kit.

The Eluder, to me, looked really nice. I saw a lot of Victory Cross bike influence with things like the center ridge and the big boy floor boards. Even the fairing with its lowers seemed like it could have been on a drawing board somewhere with the Victory design team. The handlebars were adjusted way too close to the tank but otherwise the ergonomics fit me quite well. I'l 5'10.5' with a 31" inseam. The saddlebags are a bit smaller than they look somewhat due to the smaller opening compared to the exterior dimensions.

I'll fully admit to being biased in favor of the Cross bike styling as I love it and I'm so used to it. But seing these two bikes side by side, the Cross bikes have a 'cleaner' and a 'sleeker' look to them. The only nit I've ever had with the aesthetics of the Yamaha 113" engine is it has a lot of angles, nooks and crannies. Especially compared to the Victory 106". The saddlebag design of the Cross bikes is also a big plus with me with the open lid exposing the entire interior of the bag.

Before I bought my CCT I spent a bit of time on the Raider and Stratoliner forums. At the time, there were certainly companies offering mods to increase the power and torque of the 113". So I'd guess that part of the market will be growing with these two new models.

I asked but the dealer rep wasn't sure if the Venture trunk will be a quick on/off design like the CCT. I'll be glad to run these new bikes through a demo ride this year. But I will NOT be telling my wife the Venture has a heated backrest and passenger hand grips.

Maybe someday some actual drawings will be shown of what would/could have been the next generation of the Victory Cross bikes. Oh well, I'm glad a company like Yamaha saw fit to fill the gap of the MIA 2018 Cross bikes. I wish them all the best and hope they sell far better than their wildest dreams.

The dealer does have two late model Polaris Cheiftains in their used bike line up. One is the Dark version and the other a red/cream one.
I was all about these Yamahas when they were announced and after sitting on one at Americade last year, I thought the same as you do, they could be the spiritual successor to the Cross Country. That is until I started reading and watching the reviews....from all I've taken in, these Yamaha have a glaring weak spot and it is the engine. A slow, low rev-ing slug of a thing in these big, heavy bikes which kills any ideas I had about getting one. I thought the 111 Thunder Stroke was lack luster, the Yamaha 113 seems to be even worse. I don't care to ride an big lumbering couch, I need my touring bike to get up move its ass on demand.
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