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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 02-13-2018, 03:58 PM Thread Starter
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Hey what’s up guys, I have a buddy that’s about to get cams installed on his cc. The dealership told him that he wouldn’t need a fuel management system, they will just reflash his ECU. Have you guys ever heard of this.

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His dealership is full of hogwash. He will need a tuner and a tune at the bare minimum. A dyno tune if he wants to wring every last bit of good power out of it. If he doesn't have any tuner at all right now (like a PC-V) then tell him about the Maximus. Depending on his air filter, exhaust, and if he has a timing wheel, there are some canned MAPs (tunes) available for the PC-V if he wanted to go that route.

This isn't one of those easy answer questions other than to say there's no point in getting the stage one flash which is all a dealership can legally do.
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Completely agree with @BBob,

better get the cams done in a GOOD place who understands motorcycles... Surly there is a vic guru in your vicinity ¿

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If he is doing the S&S kit, it comes with an ECU reflash card.
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If he is doing the S&S kit, it comes with an ECU reflash card.
That's a new one on me. Thanks Noe! Do you know if the S&S kit for a 2004 KP comes with a flash card too?
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The factory only did the reflash cards with the S&S cam kits for the cross country platform bikes only because it came with a specific air dam, filter and a disclaimer stating that tri-oval exhaust was required as part of the complete kit. But triovals also had to be purchased separately.
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https://www.cycleworld.com/victory-m...rmance-cam-kit

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And a stage 1 Cross Country (Lloyd air filter, slip-ons, and a Maximus tuner) will make the same power as the "Victory/S&S Stage 2" equipped bike without touching the engine at all.

Add cams to the stage 1 bike and it will leave the "Victory/S&S Stage 2" equipped bike for dead... like it was chained to a post.

1st mistake: Didn't research it.
2nd mistake: Listening to what anyone at a dealership says.
3rd mistake: Trying to take the cheap and easy route, which is always a poor decision. Best results come from doing it once and doing it right... by whatever means necessary... because the worst thing in life is disappointment/regret. Nothing like spending $1000 and then riding the bike thinking, "That's it? A thousand bucks for this?".
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And a stage 1 Cross Country (Lloyd air filter, slip-ons, and a Maximus tuner) will make the same power as the "Victory/S&S Stage 2" equipped bike without touching the engine at all.

Add cams to the stage 1 bike and it will leave the "Victory/S&S Stage 2" equipped bike for dead... like it was chained to a post.

1st mistake: Didn't research it.
2nd mistake: Listening to what anyone at a dealership says.
3rd mistake: Trying to take the cheap and easy route, which is always a poor decision. Best results come from doing it once and doing it right... by whatever means necessary... because the worst thing in life is disappointment/regret. Nothing like spending $1000 and then riding the bike thinking, "That's it? A thousand bucks for this?".
Wise words HC.... As you know for us at the other side of the world it is even more complicated, so because of the good people of this forum i have planned all the boltons carefully, the only thing that was out of my hands was the exhaust, and that ended up as the top 3 best exhaust .... Only 2 in 1 is better, but who cares....

I hope the OP will do the right thing and get his "friend" to join this forum so he can do it the first time right....

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