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post #1 of 19 (permalink) Old 04-25-2018, 11:01 PM Thread Starter
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Please pardon my ignorance but I need some help identifying paint to use to fix a small bit of damage and I know nothing about vehicle paint. I had a very minor mishap while trailering my bike last weekend. My fairing edge rubbed against the fairing of a newer Indian Roadmaster. This damaged the paint on my outer fairing a little. The only damage is on the outer fairing near the edge. It is small consolation that the Indian was damaged worse. I spoke with a painter friend who can repair my damage but he asked me:

"Any chance you can find out what basecoat and clear was used? Manufacturer, paint-code for the black, Full Urethane or Acrylic Urethane?"

My bike is a 2012 Victory Cross Country Tour and the black is, I believe, the original factory black paint on which a painter has applied a blue fire aftermarket paint. I have attached a picture of the bike and the damage.

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A good auto body shop has a machine that will do a perfect match.

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@Vinish that is just an amazing paintjob, how does your hairstyle look

I cannot help you, but again, amazing paintjob ....

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Sweet looking ride...ouch on the nasty good luck getting it touched up!! I think Ricz is right take it to a reputable auto body shop....

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I'm not taking it to some fly by night operation in the basement or garage of a friend. He is a rebuilder of antique cars who specializes in Studebakers and who also does great paint work. I've seen half a dozen bikes or bike parts that he has painted and his work is top notch. Unfortunately, his shop does not have a paint color matching machine.

I would really appreciate it if anyone who has information on the type, manufacturer, paint-code, etc. on the aforementioned black paint would share the info. Thanks.

BP6666VR, the paint is even more impressive up close. There are hundreds of small ghost skulls in the paint. Many of the little circles in the paint are actually ghost skulls. I am not into the whole skull motif but these subtle skulls are pretty cool.
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I'm not taking it to some fly by night operation in the basement or garage of a friend. He is a rebuilder of antique cars who specializes in Studebakers and who also does great paint work. I've seen half a dozen bikes or bike parts that he has painted and his work is top notch. Unfortunately, his shop does not have a paint color matching machine.

I would really appreciate it if anyone who has information on the type, manufacturer, paint-code, etc. on the aforementioned black paint would share the info. Thanks.

BP6666VR, the paint is even more impressive up close. There are hundreds of small ghost skulls in the paint. Many of the little circles in the paint are actually ghost skulls. I am not into the whole skull motif but these subtle skulls are pretty cool.
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Having dabbled in custom paint (admittedly a long time ago) I bet the reason for your painter's question has more to do with the chemistry of the paints than the coloration of them. Even if that black isn't a perfect match he'll blend it into the surroundings so smoothly you'll never notice the transition - but choosing the wrong basecoat composition (lacquer, polyester or waterborne) or the wrong clearcoat (lacquer, enamel, urethane etc) can have devastating reactions if applied in the wrong combinations. In your case, unless you can find the original painter you can never know for sure. They do make sealers to act as barriers between incompatible chemistries but all that stuff has changed 10 times since I've left the game. I gotta believe they've made it pretty safe by now but I'm sure it's still best to know what you're working with up front. Good luck with your hunt because as far as I know there's no way to know what kind of paint it is from smelling or feeling it, maybe a lab analysis - but that's not going to happen.
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Perhaps I am wrong but I think that the black paint on the bike is the original factory OEM black that was on a 2012 Victory XCT. I suspect that the custom painter only applied the blue/white/gray to make the fire and ghost skulls. The damage is ONLY in a small area which is all black on the edge of the outer fairing. It is my hope that the black and the clear in this area are original. Is this not a reasonable possibility? If not, please tell me. If so, any sources for information on the original black OEM paint and clearcoat would be appreciated.

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Corrected - see below.

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Your signature indicates the bike is a 2012. Assuming the bike has the factory paint with the embellishments added on top, the factory paint code is 266.

To the best of my knowledge, no one other than Witchdoctors will have the factory paint/clear coat.

Color: https://buywitchdoctors.com/p/598272...-black-sc-836/

Clear: https://buywitchdoctors.com/p/597952...r-coat-sc-836/

For whatever reason, the Wichdoctors page for your color is missing a tab at the bottom where it says Product Details, Additional Notes, etc. If you go to the Suade Nuclear Sunset color (link below) you will find a tab titled Instructions. That tab has two PDFs that give a lot of information about the paint. I'm assuming it is universal, meaning the PDFs do not apply solely to the suede paint. I know that those PDFs answered all the questions my painter had when he painted my 21" fender.

https://buywitchdoctors.com/p/3767/v...-matte-sc-836/

In the end, my painter said it would be best to get the paint from Witchdoctors.

Hope this helps.

(EDIT: corrected the link to the suede nuclear sunset color.)

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