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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 04-30-2019, 10:58 AM Thread Starter
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Riding the XC tonight, wet road 2-up, Dunlop E3's,...missed a turnoff onto the highway so had to double back to a roundabout and take the correct lane that led onto an uphill on-ramp.
Was gunning it in 2nd or maybe even 3rd up the on-ramp when the rear broke traction and the arse of the bike came out momentarily!...a steering correction caught it and we were on our merry way again.
Now the bikes definitely got more power, the road wet, and I was on the throttle, still it's a bit disconcerting...
Rear still got heaps on tread, records show it was fitted just a few months ago, so I'm hesitant to take it off.
Front is getting down a bit on the sides, plenty in the middle.
Guess Ill just have to take it a bit steadier in the wet in future.

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E3s can be like that MBX. I was a loyal Dunlop fan from the first E to the E3, then it was suggested by my very experienced tire guy to go to Avon Cobras and I never looked back.
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I would check the DOT code on the tire to verify when it was made. Old tires even though not worn begin falling out of spec for performance after a few years. I just put an E4 on the rear of the XCT which IMHO rides tons better than the E3 on dry pavement. I will likely find out tomorrow what it is like in the rain since I am leaving for a 5 day MC trip in the morning and rain is the forecast every day.

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Yeah I've not been in rain on my E4. I'm hoping I made a good choice. Didn't have a local source on the suggested Avon and I was not wanting to wait last year. Went from E3 which did feel a bit squirrelly to me on wet pavement to E4.
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Might even be to low on air or to much air. But with horsepower a lot of tires will not grip good and who knows how much antifreeze was on the road.
A car tire is the answer
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Over the last ten years I have run Metzler, Avon and Elites. One thing they all have in common; you 'twist the wick' on a wet road, if your scoot is packing any kind of power, good chance your going to break the rear loose.

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How hard were you on the throttle? .. in the rain i'm sure not that hard. I never been a fan of Dunlops. Get another brand and you'll be surprised. I've ran Bridgestone Excedras on my last Kingpin, good grip and still long life. My current 2011 I believe still has the original Dunlops on them though only 5k on them they feel "hard" and even on dry roads I feel hesitant to lean very much. I just get the sensation that the tire will slide out.Like yours, mine have plenty of tread too. I've been looking and just got to bite the bullet, better to be safe than try to squeeze a few more miles out of them,plus the weather here in Ct. still sucks so I should just do it now.
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The E3's on my XR were great till they got some age on them and started to get loose even on dry roads. At 5 years old I swapped them out for another set of E3's.

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Originally Posted by RICZ View Post
E3s can be like that MBX. I was a loyal Dunlop fan from the first E to the E3, then it was suggested by my very experienced tire guy to go to Avon Cobras and I never looked back.
Avon Cobras (and before them Avon Venoms) are the best bike tyres I've run on the HardBall for wet grip. Still got one on the front, but on the back they were costing A$1,000 each year.
But put enough power through any tyre on wet roads (mixed with spilled diesel, ATF, coolant glycol, leaking sump oil), and its gonna let loose sometimes.
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