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post #11 of 34 (permalink) Old 06-26-2019, 02:00 PM
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I feel like the Maximus is the way to go, basically with your current stage one setup you could have the tune done and rip down the road. Then down the road when you want cams etc., you can have it tuned again. JMO!

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HC and VJ are the guys here. I'm going with Maximus on both my bikes to get the most capability out of the stock ( well I have stage one Xbows on the Highball but not much more than stock) engines ...for now. I've not thought much about underdrive but would think that (as noted) would depend on hole shots and shift points more than "performance" (arguably a good hole shot could be considered "performance" but.....). At any rate I'm going with a maximus tune. Hope that helps.

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I feel like the Maximus is the way to go, basically with your current stage one setup you could have the tune done and rip down the road. Then down the road when you want cams etc., you can have it tuned again. JMO!
Another downside of not doing it all at once... you could end up paying for a tune 2 or 3 times... In the long run, it's cheaper to go 'one and done' with mods. That's why I made the suggestion I did in post #4.

Don't be like me... 4 exhaust systems, 2 airboxes, 2 fuel controllers, 2 big bore kits, a stroker kit, 5 dyno tunes... Decide what you want, do it, ride happy and save a shit-ton of money. If you think it's expensive doing it once, BELIEVE ME it's cheaper than doing it twice.

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HC and VJ are the guys here. I'm going with Maximus on both my bikes to get the most capability out of the stock ( well I have stage one Xbows on the Highball but not much more than stock) engines ...for now. I've not thought much about underdrive but would think that (as noted) would depend on hole shots and shift points more than "performance" (arguably a good hole shot could be considered "performance" but.....). At any rate I'm going with a maximus tune. Hope that helps.

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Engines are air pumps. The more air it can pump, the more power it will make (if you add the proper amount of fuel to the extra air). So... the biggest power gain will come from letting it BREATHE. The Victory 'high flow' air filter does NOTHING except give you a washable/reusable air filter. Luckily, the most performance gain is also the cheapest on a Vision, since a real HIGH FLOW air filter system is inexpensive... and you're tuning it anyway.

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...The Victory 'high flow' air filter does NOTHING except give you a washable/reusable air filter...
Yeah which is why the "performance" tune is nearly identical to the stock tune air map. A few minor timing changes. It's really not even trying.
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On the other hand, the 31 tooth pulley is a final drive gearing change and is beneficial in a completely different way. If you feel the bike's gearing is too tall (need to downshift all the way to 1st at intersections and 6th gear is useless below 70 mph) then the pulley will be something you'll really like.

It's only money... you get paid again next week, so it's not like you won't get any more money.

Here's a suggestion... walk into your bank and tell them you want a 'no interest for 18 months' credit card. Get what you want for the bike and as long as you pay it off in 18 months you get to use their money FOR FREE, leave your money where it is, and boost your credit score in the process. Even if you get it all,Maximus w/tune, pulley, and LSC cams too ($3K)... It would only cost you $167/month to pay it off in 18 months.

Life is far TOO LONG to suffer though it telling yourself "No"... when your heart says "Yes!". Spend a couple of years waiting... or spend a couple of years ENJOYING.[/QUOTE]

Your right about the loan. 12 years ago or more I used the no interest credit cards to pay my mortgage down, when the term ended I would just apply for another card. Back then there was no transfer fees either. I actually had one card I already had offer 0 interest for the life of the loan, Put 10 grand on it. That and throwing xtra money against it paid the mortgage off pretty quick.
I was on the fence about getting a fuel controller for my bike. Was looking at getting a used Lloydz gen 3 for 150 on Ebay when I saw a new Dobeck Afr tuner $75 more, jumped on it.
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Another downside of not doing it all at once... you could end up paying for a tune 2 or 3 times... In the long run, it's cheaper to go 'one and done' with mods. That's why I made the suggestion I did in post #4.

Don't be like me... 4 exhaust systems, 2 airboxes, 2 fuel controllers, 2 big bore kits, a stroker kit, 5 dyno tunes... Decide what you want, do it, ride happy and save a shit-ton of money. If you think it's expensive doing it once, BELIEVE ME it's cheaper than doing it twice.
I totally agree with you about doing it all at once. However, some fellas don't have the scratch to pull it all off at once and I can understand anyone not wanting to incur debt to do so. If I were in the situation I would wait until I had the cash to do it all.

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Ok Here is some information I didn't have when I started this thread. I originally thought the cost between doing the Maximus Tune or the UD Pulley was with-in about $50 of each other, hence my title of Biggest Bang for the Buck.

What I now have found out is the Maximus tune with a license module is really more than double the cost of the Under Drive Pulley. (I'm seeing the UD pulley at around $330)
So now it's not any more a "I can do one or the other but not both" It would be different if I already had the Maximus Module because then it would be just $400 for the Remote Tune.

For those that recommended Cams I'm not really looking to go that way. Like I mentioned the bike is mainly used as a Commuter (about 7000 miles a year) with the occasional long trip thrown in. This along with the costs has me leaning towards the better gearing.

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A bone stock bike, and, UD pulley would be a wonderful ride
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For those that recommended Cams I'm not really looking to go that way.
Most of these guys who have cams now said the same thing....

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Like I mentioned the bike is mainly used as a Commuter
Yeah, mine too...
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