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I've been reading all over the place about removing the CATS but have not come across 2 valuable bits of info...

1. Does removing the cats void your warranty and if so, ae we talking all warranty or only specific components of it?

2. What specifically needs to be removed from the bike in order to get the cats out? (I have read how to get them out)

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I removed mine when I was running the stock exhaust, very easy upgrade. You will need a hole saw that just fits into the pipe, you will have to fab up an extension so you can reach the plates (there is 2 of them), pull the pipe off and drill them out. Will it void your warranty? Only if they can prove that drilling out your baffles caused any damage to your bike. The bike feels great after the mod, breathes so much better, do you have a fuel controller? If not unplug your O2 sensors....

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I removed mine when I was running the stock exhaust, very easy upgrade. You will need a hole saw that just fits into the pipe, you will have to fab up an extension so you can reach the plates (there is 2 of them), pull the pipe off and drill them out. Will it void your warranty? Only if they can prove that drilling out your baffles caused any damage to your bike. The bike feels great after the mod, breathes so much better, do you have a fuel controller? If not unplug your O2 sensors....

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Why would you have to unplug the O2 sensors?
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I disconnected the O2 sensors on my 2012 CCT for 100 miles. I went from mild popping to ridiculous amounts of popping as well as losing about 2.5 mpg. I re-connected them after that ride. My bike is a 2012 CCT with a Lloyds air filter, Tri Oval mufflers and the Victory fuel map download.

For me and my bike, there was nothing good that came from disconnecting the 02 sensors.

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I disconnected the O2 sensors on my 2012 CCT for 100 miles. I went from mild popping to ridiculous amounts of popping as well as losing about 2.5 mpg. I re-connected them after that ride. My bike is a 2012 CCT with a Lloyds air filter, Tri Oval mufflers and the Victory fuel map download.

For me and my bike, there was nothing good that came from disconnecting the 02 sensors.
I never had the popping with or without the sensors, but I lost a lot more than 2.5 mpg without them. I'm with you, though in the heat of the summer, the richness will allow the bike to operate a little cooler and may be worth losing some efficiency.




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I've been reading all over the place about removing the CATS but have not come across 2 valuable bits of info...

1. Does removing the cats void your warranty and if so, ae we talking all warranty or only specific components of it?

2. What specifically needs to be removed from the bike in order to get the cats out? (I have read how to get them out)

Thanks
Two cats in the pipes. One is located under the passenger foot rest on the right side. Remove the pipe and you will see the Cat.
The left cat is located in the cross tube next to the Oil filter. Remove the pipe and the elbow to access.

I tried the hole saw first.. bit of a pain in the A$$. I used a 3/8 drill bit and drilled a serise of holes around the edge of the cat. There is a sleeve between the cat and the pipe. . Then with a long nose pliers pulled the cat material out. be carfull it is very sharp. I used a die grinder to clean up the sleeve and reinstalled the pipes.

I have a Cobra power pro installed and also disconnected the O2 sensors. Very little to no popping hot or cold. greatly reduced the heat generated by the cats.

Sound just a bit louder throttle response a bit crisper. Fuel mileage about the same. Just did a 1400 mile ride to NY and back with a trailer behind. Work great no issues of any kind.

Warrentee... talk to Vic Dealer and he did not recommend it but he also sells pipes without cats too.... oh by the by drills them out too.

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Something of note... I used header wrap on the cross tube and areas under the ppassenger foot rests to further control the heat.
Riding on a 90+ humid day is very doable now... not roasting the chestnuts anymore.

Two things:
Cats mandated by Federal law (IE forced by EPA)
O2 sensors, mandated by Federal law (IE forced by EPA)

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Two cats in the pipes. One is located under the passenger foot rest on the right side. Remove the pipe and you will see the Cat.
The left cat is located in the cross tube next to the Oil filter. Remove the pipe and the elbow to access.

I tried the hole saw first.. bit of a pain in the A$$. I used a 3/8 drill bit and drilled a serise of holes around the edge of the cat. There is a sleeve between the cat and the pipe. . Then with a long nose pliers pulled the cat material out. be carfull it is very sharp. I used a die grinder to clean up the sleeve and reinstalled the pipes.

I have a Cobra power pro installed and also disconnected the O2 sensors. Very little to no popping hot or cold. greatly reduced the heat generated by the cats.

Sound just a bit louder throttle response a bit crisper. Fuel mileage about the same. Just did a 1400 mile ride to NY and back with a trailer behind. Work great no issues of any kind.

Warrentee... talk to Vic Dealer and he did not recommend it but he also sells pipes without cats too.... oh by the by drills them out too.

Cheers
Thanks Squatch ... I figgured you'd come thru with some details.
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Why would you have to unplug the O2 sensors?
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I'm guessing here but it seems to me that removing the cats causes a leaner burn. Disconnecting the 02s balances that coz just disconnecting them by themselves (no cats removed) causes a richer burn.
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