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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 12-31-2010, 10:02 AM Thread Starter
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Default Hi Guys....I own a 2007 Road Glide which has been a total piece of crap!

So I'm lookin' to Victory to show me the way home! I've had it with HD and their inferior quality and dealer customer service. I'm seriously considering a CC, but I have 4 major concerns. First off I'm 6'1" with a 34" inseam and I want to stretch out when I ride. What parts do I need to be able to do this on a CC? I'm lookin' at bars, seat, and possibly floorboard modifications.Secondly I hate vibration, and I hear the CCs tend to vibrate a lot once the revs start to increase. Third, the engine sounds like crap...what kind of exhaust setup will give it some deep rumblin' authority? And fourth, wind buffeting sounds like a real pain in the butt on the CC. I want a windshield that will get rid of the buffeting, but not kill the cool factor of the bike. Also, one added question...what are the maintenance costs required for these sleds and how has dealer support been for you? Thanks!!
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I'll try and attack each of your questions as best as possible.

First off I'm 6'1" with a 34" inseam and I want to stretch out when I ride. What parts do I need to be able to do this on a CC? I'm lookin' at bars, seat, and possibly floorboard modifications. My understanding from people over 6 feet is that they didn't need to do anything because the floorboards are so long. Many add highway pegs but that is not a factor of height. Also buy aftermarket.

Secondly I hate vibration, and I hear the CCs tend to vibrate a lot once the revs start to increase. Yes there is vibration being I've never been on an HD I don't know what the comparison is.

Third, the engine sounds like crap...what kind of exhaust setup will give it some deep rumblin' authority? The engine is what it is, a gear driven with overhead cams and that equates to noise. HOWEVER the 2011 I hear, has taken a lot of the tranny noise down substantially. As far as exhaust...that is a subjective issue. If you type in Victory Cross Country exhaust on You Tube there are a LOT of sound bites of different ones.

And fourth, wind buffeting sounds like a real pain in the butt on the CC. I want a windshield that will get rid of the buffeting, but not kill the cool factor of the bike. OH LAWD...the wind buffeting is horrendous with the low windshield BUT I've heard that the +3 and higher windscreens eliminate it along with lowers.

Also, one added question...what are the maintenance costs required for these sleds and ? Thanks!! Maintenance cost is oil change!! The oil change is definitely something you can do because it is so simple. Pull the drain plug, change the filter and refill. 30 minutes max!! Belts should be changed about 30k.

how has dealer support been for you You just hit on the biggest con of Victory ownership and that is the dealer network. First there aren't a lot out there especially if you compare to HD. The other problem is there aren't a lot of good Victory Techs put there. We are lucky to have KevinX as a member here. He is considered one of if not the authority on our bikes. I am one of the lucky ones that has a couple of good dealers. Unfortunately they are at least 90 miles away. LOL

Go test ride the XC. Victory and the dealers allow and encourage it because they know it is the best selling point.
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Vibration
Test ride, as diamond suggested. The test ride will answer most of your questions, especially if the vibration is noticeable, bearable, or unbearable for you. Personally, I like it. It's very subtle and to me, it's a way for the bike to communicate with me without having to look at the gauges. But without test riding you would never know, because everybody has their own taste and opinion. To me, the vibration means "shift up, fool!"

Floor Boards
The test ride will also answer if the huge floorboards are big enough for you, and at 5'11" I can almost guarantee they won't be too small for the extra 2" in height you have over me. I cannot stretch my feet long enough to get 'em to the front edge of the boards. Also, the foot controls are adjustable, so when you test ride, make sure they are moved up forward enough to your liking.

Wind Buffeting
Wind buffeting is eliminated with a taller windshield but even more important (from what others have reported) are the lower wind deflectors.

Maintenance
Agreed with diamond's post above. I would only add that oil changes for the 2011 models are every 5,000 miles, and an oil change kit costs $55.99 + tax at my local dealer (that should give you a good enough idea).

Dealer Support
I have found a great dealer who has earned my respect and business. With Victory being the top brand for customer satisfaction for 2009 and 2010, I don't see where else you could go for better service and support. That being said, be cautious, as the dealers are ran by human beings. And if you haven't heard, human beings are tough to deal with sometimes.

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As far as your heigth is concerned I think you will find that the C.C is a better fit for you. I'm 5'8 and had to to mods because I was to stretched out.
As far as buffeting is concerned, just about everyone ends up with higher windshield ( I went with a 16 inch) and lowers. With that set up I have eliminated my buffeting.
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So I'm lookin' to Victory to show me the way home! I've had it with HD and their inferior quality and dealer customer service.

This is why I also sold my Softail Deluxe a few months ago and bought a Cross Roads vs a Road King!

I'm seriously considering a CC, but I have 4 major concerns. First off I'm 6'1" with a 34" inseam and I want to stretch out when I ride. What parts do I need to be able to do this on a CC? I'm lookin' at bars, seat, and possibly floorboard modifications.

I am 5'10" and I have no issue. My buddy road my CR today for about 20 minutes, he is 6'3" and rides a Street Glide. He got off of it and said "it is not a harley but I would never kick it out of my garage, man that bike is nice! I love the way it rides like a caddy!

Secondly I hate vibration, and I hear the CCs tend to vibrate a lot once the revs start to increase.

haven ridden HD both softails and baggers I can tell you they vibrate much less at idle then a bagger and a lot less the the Softail at high speeds! At 80 my Deluxe felt like I was hagging on to my chain saw! The Victory is hardly noticeable

Third, the engine sounds like crap...what kind of exhaust setup will give it some deep rumblin' authority?

My dealer made my exhaust and I LOVE IT! No it does not sound like a HD and they NEVER WILL! Once you are willing to accept that you are good! Just like my V10 F250, it will never sound like a V8, can it out perform and out haul all v8s and some diesels, hell yes! Check them out, they have a clip on you tube. Victory of Southern MD, it sounds more like a muscle car, very deep very low rumble!

And fourth, wind buffeting sounds like a real pain in the butt on the CC. I want a windshield that will get rid of the buffeting, but not kill the cool factor of the bike.

Klockworks is working on a flip up windshield and I know that someone just posted with another company that made one. so you keep the lower look with out the buffeting. I have read that the taller one will also help but you are going to loose some on the looks. As far as lowers, you can try it but I have never been a fan on the HDs with lowers. Although these bikes don't run as hot as HD 96ci they still run hot and with lowers on the HD the bike was a real nut roster! I would look into a flip style or taller before I went that way unless someone can tell you that the lowers do not bake your junk.

Also, one added question...what are the maintenance costs required for these sleds and how has dealer support been for you? Thanks!!

OMG!!! My dealer is the TITS!!! And we all know there is not much better than that As far as cost, well the only thing other then buying the bike from them (19k bike for 15k out the door) was the price of pipes and install. They charged me $499, and put it all under labor so they did not have to charge me tax! Now there is not as many as HD and your not going to find more T shirts then bikes but they are around and recently for 2010 was found to have the best customer service and loyalty rating, beating out HD and Ducati!
Good luck and welcome to the forum. I still love the HD but there is no doubt that the VIC is the better bike.

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I also had a 2007 Road Glide when I purchased my XC 6 weeks ago.

I actually liked the RG, but the handling was poor, especially in the twisties. The XC is a far superior riding bike, if that is important to you.

I don't notice any significant difference in vibration...the Harley had more at idle, the XC more when riding, but neither is an issue, at least for me.

Buffeting is an issue, as it is on the RG. Probably not better, but cetainly no worse. A big shield will completely cure it, and they are much easier to swap back and forth on the XC than a RG.

I think the Harley sounds better, but perhaps that's because I have owned and ridden them for so many years.

For me, the XC dealer is better than than most harley dealers, but I live in Los Angeles, so have lots of choices. With a new bike, it's not that important (IMHO) since they are both reliable as all get out. For emergency stuff, any Harley dealer could and would take care of most things, like a flat tire, etc.

Good luck in your decision.

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A test ride will answer most of your questions. I haven't riden a RG but I did ride a RK after I got my Victory; I swapped bikes with my neighbor for about 60 miles and hated most of it. The RK sounded better but between the the vibration, lack of room for my wife, lack of room to change leg position for me, and serious lack of suspension I wanted to switch back much sooner. The RK was a 2006 so it had a different engine than your RG; maybe a bigger engine would have helped -- I could have caught up to my neighbor and got him to pull over sooner so I could get my ride back!

Read the forums and you can find out a bit about the dealers and service. Some people love their dealers, others look for a new one. Not too much different than Harley... Keep in mind that the number of Harley dealerships completely eclipses the number of Victory dealerships. In a lot of cases this means that you have to keep your fingers crossed that you find a good dealer or be willing to put some seat time in driving to the next closest.

Service cost is a tough call; Cross Roads/Cross Country models both started in 2010. There are only a few people that have enough miles on their bikes to justify several service visits. I for one can only give you first service; my first service (500 mile) cost me $117 -- you own a Harley so you already know what your first service was. If it was anything like my neighbors first service on his RG you probably spent a little over $300. Part of the reason Victory's are cheaper to service is that they have common oil; Harley has separate oil for the engine/transmission/primary -- Victory oil does all 3 with the same oil.

There are quite a few choices for exhaust -- go to "You Tube" and do a few searches and you'll find most if not all of them. Coming from Harley you may be slightly dissappointed in the volume but it is what it is -- you probably won't find one that will set off car alarms but you will find one that will get you noticed (hopefully not in the form of a ticket). You may also be disappointed in the availability of aftermarket parts/accessories. Harley has a plethora of aftermarket vendors, Victory has a handfull. It's simple to see why, Harley has been around for many more years and there are a lot more of them are on the road. Vendors take serious risks building for low volume sales and not too many of them can afford to take the risk.

As mentioned in the beginning of this novel -- TEST RIDE!! Let Victory prove itself to you!!

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I traded my 09 street glide in on a vision and have never looked back. Victory really does make a good bike. We all feel what we think vibration is but is it the road the tires wearing. Every bike seams to have wind problems but then we do find the fix. As for leg room a friend who is 6' 8" was blown away by how much rood there was. I have been doing my own oil changes be for oil came in plastic bottles. Its easy and fun while the oil is coming out you can clean the bottom of the bike off check the wear on the rear tire and more.
You don't say where you live and why guys don't is beyond me but check your tires the first of every moth and they will last longer. When you buy the new bike get the dealer to throw in the fist check up for free and you'll save $300 bucks. Most dealers are pretty good but then they have there days to.
Watch these 5 videos it might help.

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I have a 07 Ultra Classic and a 2011 cross country.
At idle the XC has less vibrations, at speed the XC has a little more due to the engine being part of the frame.
Victory had the rider in mind when they built the XC in the most part.

You definitely need to do a test ride to satisfy your questions. We are not you so we can not think or feel the same as you.

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The floorboards are large and 1 of the cool things that Victory has done is they added adjustable foot controls. Under the Floorboard there is a screw that allows you to move the controls, gear/brake, forward or rearward.
Even at being 6'1" it is possible you may need the +2 inch handlebars, this will depend on your arm reach. A taller windscreen will be necessary I am sure.
Sound is very subjective so what 1 hears may not be what another hears. I think the Victory bikes sound great with the right set of pipes. Personally I do not like loud so I am very contented with the factory pipes for now.

Handling is really good, slow speed it is very close as being as good as my Ultra. Running the curves/twists it is better. I have a missing link on my Ultra so it handles wonderfully. The biggest advantage to the XC over my Ultra for handling is the ability for quick flips from 1 direction to another in s curves.
Hope this helps ya but do take a good test ride.

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Watch these 5 videos it might help.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGkFPUeNUqc

GOOD LUCK
I had never seen those videos, good stuff!!! Thanks for sharing.

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