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I've found a thread here with dyno charts comparing stock exhaust to a couple aftermarket brands, but has anyone got a chart comparing stock to the Victory Stage 1 set up?

I've read the Stage 1 is not much louder than stock, which I am fine with if it gives more power. I'm not wanting something as quiet as a Goldwing, but being able to accelerate hard without letting every LEO within a mile know about it, would be a good thing. (not that I would ever do that)

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go to you tube and listen to all the ones there.
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maybe I should just ask if anyone has a dyno chart after the Vic stage 1 installation. I can compare that to the stock chart I found.

The videos on youtube are too varied to be useful. If they were all made with the same camera, placed at the same distance and height from the exhaust tips, a comparison could be made, plus, the little speaker in my laptop has no base response.

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I've found a thread here with dyno charts comparing stock exhaust to a couple aftermarket brands, but has anyone got a chart comparing stock to the Victory Stage 1 set up?

I've read the Stage 1 is not much louder than stock, which I am fine with if it gives more power. I'm not wanting something as quiet as a Goldwing, but being able to accelerate hard without letting every LEO within a mile know about it, would be a good thing. (not that I would ever do that)
If you go to Lloyds site he has dyno charts available for different engines and different mods...I think it is www.lloydzmotorworkz.com

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Bad link. Try http://www.lloydz.com/dyno.asp The links to the Dyno sheets are on the right side of the page.

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not much mechanical here....but from what i have absorbed from the descriptions and my own "caclulations" on the dyno done on my XC...torque is the king and horsepower is just an abstraction....am i right on this? so these days i only look at torque at rpm...btw i have the az slammers / pc and they do rumble and bark....i love it...and the bike flies..

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Thanks, some great data here keep up the good work. I actually allow for a more creative comment as I'm a bit out og my deph but I will be checking back here for further updates.
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I have the Stage 1 on my CC. It helped it a little but not a whole lot. I don't know what the numbers are but my friend has a stock CC and I can pull away from him fairly easily. If I had it to do over I would have done something differently. I bought the bike new and had it put on before I left the shop. It is quiet though. Not too loud at all.

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Its quite silly when I see so many people trying to increase power/tq on the XC..

Bottom line unless your going to bolt on a turbo or do a piston/cam/port-mill head....any results you get are minimal and trivial at best...you can not feel 5 rwhp or 10 ft/lbs tq...you will only see the difference at a drag strip where et/times are measured to the .000

Most everyone that puts on pipes thinks the new found noise/sound= power...sorry most of the time it does not...

The past 25 years I have tossed tens of thousands by a factory of 10 into drag racing and come to the realization that unless your at the strip...its meaningless to spend money on speed as all it equates to is the BSD club (big swinging D..K)

At present up the steet from me is a bikers bar...big brawley tough guys...many H/A show up through out the year along with other clubs and individuals who tossed big dollars into their bikes. I have lost count how many times they get towed from the lot, cant idle, wont accelerate due to having flat slides (a drag carb that morons try to run on the street because their engine builder is nothing more then a glorified dyno queen jockey) and to think earlier in the week several looked at my XC and said.."its not a Harley" "yup" was my responce...and where do you want me to start to prove to you that the Victory is a vastly superior bike to any Harley produced today...(thanks to watching that vid posted from Arizona Vic-the 5 part one) I rattled off facts and left these bald, beer gut, beard toting, tatoo clad, $10.00 fiberglass helmet wearing so called bikers with their mouths wide open....

The XC is a fantastic machine with bullet proof reliablity right off the showroom. Is it fast??? compared to a Harley.. yes, compared to a Honda 250, yes...compared to a busa or zx14??? its a slug...always will be regardless of how much money you toss into the bike. That being said its like the tortoise vs the hair....long after my zx14 or someone else on a liter bike has parked their bike so the rider may stretch their arms, back.....the XC will keep motoring right by for another few hundred miles in the same day.


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Thanks, some great data here keep up the good work. I actually allow for a more creative comment as I'm a bit out og my deph but I will be checking back here for further updates.

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Its quite silly when I see so many people trying to increase power/tq on the XC..
you can not feel 5 rwhp or 10 ft/lbs tq...you will only see the difference at a drag strip whernoise/sound= power...sorry most of the time it does not.e et/times are measured to the .000
I can absolutly feel 10 ft/lb at 3000 rpm . It maks a huge difference. Take 2 XCs same weight, same rider, same everything hit and on ramp shifting both bike at 3000 rpm. The bike with the extra 10ft/lbs will absolutlyt walk off from the other. Pulls grades and passengers better as well. Its silly for you to say that. If its silly to try and increase your HP and Torque there would be a hell of a lota people out work. Futhermore if you couldn't feel it, the perfromance aftermarket would have died a long, long, long tome ago.

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