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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 05-10-2011, 08:40 PM Thread Starter
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i have noticed that i have started sliding a bit at intersection-turn roll outs...now then...i have started twisting her a bit more better...but the tread looks a bit thin on my stock elites...(10.5k)

question is...how many miles are yall getting on a set of stock elites and is there a better tire for the XC?

i ran metz on my vtx and consider them to have been peachy..12k on the stock dunnie 16k on the first metz then sold at after another 5 or so...and they looked new...given i was not pushing the x like the vic (much)

anyway gotta trip coming up and figured now...so ..what is yall's mileage? does this bike eat tires like i am told a wing does?

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i have noticed that i have started sliding a bit at intersection-turn roll outs...now then...i have started twisting her a bit more better...but the tread looks a bit thin on my stock elites...(10.5k)

question is...how many miles are yall getting on a set of stock elites and is there a better tire for the XC?

i ran metz on my vtx and consider them to have been peachy..12k on the stock dunnie 16k on the first metz then sold at after another 5 or so...and they looked new...given i was not pushing the x like the vic (much)

anyway gotta trip coming up and figured now...so ..what is yall's mileage? does this bike eat tires like i am told a wing does?
I changed the dunlops @ 12k. I put on Metzler 880'S. Love the way the bike handles with the Metzlers. I have had good luck with them on other brand of bikes. I hope to get better than 12k time will tell.

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A lot depends on the roads you ride on, the temperature, how aggressive you brake and accelerate, how much you use the back brakes vs the front brakes, etc.

Out here where we get over 113 just about every day for 2 months and over 100 for another 2 months; tires don't last very long. I'll be going to a car tire on the back of my XC when it's due. Got 4200 on it now and still looks good but it hasn't been through a summer yet.
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I changed the dunlops @ 12k. I put on Metzler 880'S. Love the way the bike handles with the Metzlers. I have had good luck with them on other brand of bikes. I hope to get better than 12k time will tell.
New to the XC, but 10k doesn't sound bad to me. I just traded in a 2006 Vulcan 2000, and I couldn't get 5k from a rear motorcycle tire. I went the "darkside" car tire route on that.

Will probably do the same on the Vic when its time. I saw notes on a few people doing the CT on Visions. http://darkside.nwff.info/database.php
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The first of every month I check my air.
As it heats up I see a change in the air pressure along with when it gets cold.
40 front and rear for me.
You'll find fools who never check there air till they get a oil change from the dealer but they have well paying jobs and don't think weather changes there air pressure. There all so think that the dealer checks there air.
15 thousand on the rear elite 3 and now a darksider and 25 thousand miles
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Lattimer and Bbob, why are you going to a car tire when the design parameters and characteristics are entirely different than what a motorcycle requires and it will devastate the handling capabilities? Is tire life more valuable than your life?

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Lattimer and Bbob, why are you going to a car tire when the design parameters and characteristics are entirely different than what a motorcycle requires and it will devastate the handling capabilities? Is tire life more valuable than your life?

I have had this discussion hundreds of times with multiple different people on different sites. The right car tire works just fine. I've logged over 15,000 miles on car tires on my previous bike with no issues whatsoever. Rode in rain, wet, gravel, dry, had a sudden blowout....never once had any pucker factor at all from the tire.

The fact is that a heavy cruiser compresses a car tire such that the tire contact patch is always significantly larger than a motorcycle tire. That leads to better traction in all conditions, handling that is different, but not bad, and substantially increased tire life.

There is a community of long-distance riders with bigger bikes (Goldwings, VTX, Valkyrie, VN 2000, etc) who have done a lot of work figuring out the right tires to use.

Its not for everybody.....but I know it works fine for me.
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You have me curious, what would be the "right" car tire for motorcycle application? What happens when heeled over in a tight turn and you are only on the edge of the squarish car tire tread? I too have read considerably about installing car tires on motorcycles and the result among the experts is unanimous....don't do it. So please sate my curiosity. I wonder what KevinX would say about this. Kevin?

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You have me curious, what would be the "right" car tire for motorcycle application? What happens when heeled over in a tight turn and you are only on the edge of the squarish car tire tread? I too have read considerably about installing car tires on motorcycles and the result among the experts is unanimous....don't do it. So please sate my curiosity. I wonder what KevinX would say about this. Kevin?
Most of the "experts" are misinformed and have never actually witnessed exactly how a CT performs on a bike. Most are also overly cautious due to legal ramifications.......

You never actually end up on the edge. I've had multiple people ride behind me and they were amazed at what they saw vs what they expected.

You generally want a fairly soft compound, directional tread performance tire. Favorites for the Vulcans are the General Altimax and the Goodyear Triple Tread. I had great results with a Michelin Pilot as well.
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Lattimer,
Would you run Deal's Gap with car tires on your bike?

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