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post #1 of 48 (permalink) Old 11-09-2013, 07:41 PM Thread Starter
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Well, thought I would post to say that I have an XR Classic test ride tomorrow. My carb'd UJM is having problems with starting and running in the cold. Will let you guys know what I think. Because I like to share

I am glad I waited though, Victory's Veterans Day Sales incentive is very nice ($2000 off for Vets, $1000 off for civy) and 3yr warranty on 2013s. The standard 1yr (only) warranty was one of the reasons that I had reservations.

Just test rode a Dyna Switchback yesterday so it will be interesting to compare.

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Dyna Switchback. Made me think of the oil changes if you do your own. The Victory is very simple. I know the HD is much more envolved. I did an oil change on my wifes(get this) Yamaha Vino 125cc (scooter) today. What a pain that little thing was to do. The big o Victory is soooo much easier to maintane. Drop one drain plug, unscrew one oil filter. Install new filter, drain plug and new oil, so much simpler than a lot of bikes,even much smaller bikes. If you do your own work it is something to keep in mind, if you take it in to have it done then it may not matter. Which ever bike you go for enjoy the new ride,good luck.

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Well, thought I would post to say that I have an XR Classic test ride tomorrow. My carb'd UJM is having problems with starting and running in the cold. Will let you guys know what I think. Because I like to share

I am glad I waited though, Victory's Veterans Day Sales incentive is very nice ($2000 off for Vets, $1000 off for civy) and 3yr warranty on 2013s. The standard 1yr (only) warranty was one of the reasons that I had reservations.

Just test rode a Dyna Switchback yesterday so it will be interesting to compare.
Let me preface this by saying I like Harley touring bikes. I don't love them, but I like them. With enough money I could make a Road King a hell of a good bike and I love the look of the new one.

Last year I had the opportunity to demo a Switchback. I thought it was a complete piece of shit. It vibrated like hell at low rpm then around 55 mph in 5th it would smooth out only to start vibrating like hell again. The suspension wasn't awful, but not near as plush as the touring stuff and the handling felt every bit as vague.

Now for the good news. The XR you will test is an far superior bike to the switchback. But from the feedback of my riding partner, the bias ply front tire lacks the feel of the standard's radial.

Pitch those damn spoke tires and bias ply crap and put the standard rims and radials on it and you've got not only a great platform, but an all around sport tourer dressed like a good looking, traditional cruiser.

Enjoy tomorrow. You'll soon forget Harley exists.




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Enjoy your test ride and you can probably talk them down another $1,000 or so after the red tag and Vet discounts. XR's are not big sellers and one that has been sitting there for a year will probably sit for another year or so. I would see if they would let you trade in the soft bags for a set of black hard bags, more room and you can lock them.

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Thanks for the feedback guys. I am looking forward to trying out the XR.

I was actually surprised by the Switchback. It was very maneuverable at city speeds. Unfortunately, I didn't try it out on the freeway. If it is still in the running after tomorrow I will. The vibrating was pretty extreme at idle! Riding-wise it smoothed out. The 103ci is pretty peppy in the little Dyna frame.

The big things I didn't like was how small the hard bags were (they went style over function). I don't think my laptop will fit in it. Also didn't like the 2-1 exhaust (it got hot even on my short demo ride). More tomorrow/later today

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Well, just got back from the test ride. I know it will probably piss some folks off but I am going to be honest - it just didn't blow me away. I am not ruling it out, but I need to think about it some more and take it out for a longer ride next week when I have some more time. I spent about 20 mins in town and 10 on the freeway. I had no problems low speed and it really shines on the freeway.

The big thing was the seating position that the bars put me. After about 10mins my left hand actually hurt. That's a first. Can the bars be adjusted in a bit more?

It also didn't help that the bike stalled out at a light and displayed "low oil." I know that's the dealer's fault but not conducive for first impressions.

I didn't have any of the common internet complaints people had with braking, clutch, transmission (finding neutral), etc. Also fit and finish was perfect, I didn't see any seams or wiring. I like the plastic chin guard. Exhaust and bags are very well done. Love the aux. lights! The bike just looks great.

But, some bikes seem perfectly balanced. The XR did not. I felt it took some effort to keep it upright. That may be because I am not used to it. It is a big bike. The motor didn't pull as hard as I anticipated. Probably unfair that I am comparing it to the 103 in a Dyna, but the Dyna oozed torque and very forgiving gear wise. Sound-wise and vibration-wise the Vic was far superior - quiet and vibration free at idle. Just enough growl at speed.

Anyway, I hope that you guys don't flame me. Just giving some feedback and wondering what you think. The bike definitely is worth a second look but I thought I would be coming home with it today.

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Going to spend a lot of money on whatever you buy. Rent one and ride it like you own it or stole it. Do NOT be afraid to rev it. The engine is 4 valves per cylinder and likes to be ran up in rpm more than the HD. Also I own a XRs. I did find that the back wheel was not in alignment from the dealer, thus it was pulleying to one side, so I was always correcting it. The dealers(most of them) throw them together to get them out the door, they are not going to check the back wheel on every machine. One old HD guy I know rented the Vision for him and his wife for a day, he was very impressed, he is shopping. I really did not think I would like the Victory bikes and I went back several times for a few years on demo days, rode most of what they offered at the time. On the XR and XC the floor boards and controls are adjustable back and forth, good for this short legged guy. The air suspension rear shock is nice also. The hard bags lock and do hold a lot of stuff. I got the police style bag protectors also, already saved those expensive saddle bags. Yes my bike has fallen over, twice now, both times my faught, now that is out of the way, it should not fall over anymore. One of my friends just picked up a new Triumph Trophey, very nice, he seems very happy. Good luck on what ever you get and a rental for a day is a small expense compared to a bike payment for possibly 5-years.

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Purchase whatever makes you smile. I haven't heard any victory owners say that you shouldn't purchase that other brand because it's not a Vic. In the end if you purchase a Vic and don't love it then it's not worth shit.


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Thanks guys, I am going to try and take it out Tuesday for a longer ride and request they actually put oil in it. Feature-wise it has everything want except hard bags (they want full $ for hardbags no trade in).

Two questions:
1. Will the bars adjust in?
2. What RPM range should I be operating? I am thinking maybe I didn't rev it high enough.

Thanks!!

BTW, appreciate your guys' knowledge and cordiality. Other forums would not have been as kind when comparing brands

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I like my RPM's up around the 2500-3000 Range and you can wind it on up to 4,000 with no worries .. As far as Bar adjustment will let someone else chime in on that .. Sometimes I think want to go with the 2" pullbacks on my XC but it really hasn't made me uncomfortable the way it is so havn't made it a priority .. While I love my XC and most other Vics it is your money, and whatever you decide to Ride I wish you well ..

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