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post #1 of 28 (permalink) Old 12-06-2013, 07:36 AM Thread Starter
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Changed the oil on the Vic last night. Used the exact same procedure I have used at least 10 times between this bike and the last Vic…

Start bike, warm engine up a bit, shut down bike, remove drain plug, remove filter, stand bike up for a minute (gets a little more oil out), replace drain plug, install new filter, add exactly 4.5 qts. Of Vic oil, start bike and let run for a minute, shut down, check level. That’s where the problem starts.

The level was way up the stick and there was a lot of bubbles in the oil (crank frothing up the oil). Checked it again a few minutes later to be sure and got the same thing. Broke out the Mighty Vac and started pulling oil out through the fill/check hole and found the oil was dark. Ended up pulling roughly 36 ounces out before the reading was right. Start it up and let it run for a minute, shut her down and check the level… spot on. Go for a spin around the block… good. Checked it again this AM… still good.

So my conclusion is that somehow 36 ounces of old oil got stuck in the engine.

Has anyone else ever had this happen? Should I be concerned, maybe an oil passage is clogged or something?

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I have done oil changes and used the correct amount to refill. I had the same problem when I checked the level way too high and had to suck out quite of bit of oil. It was like half a litre had hidden itself somewhere. Maybe some oil hangs up in the oil cooler.

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How didn't you realize only a quart and a half came out initially ? That's not very much and would be an instant red flag ...

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How didn't you realize only a quart and a half came out initially ? That's not very much and would be an instant red flag ...
From my estimate about 3 1/2 quarts dropped. If only 1 1/2 quarts would have come out I would have probably noticed.

Maybe I should have noticed the variance anyway, but in my defense I've got 4 vehicles that I maintain (2 bikes), each takes a different amount of oil, and this is the 4th oil change I've done in the last 3-4 weeks.

By the way, last oil change I did was on the VN900, which takes about 3 1/2 quarts. It took maybe 20 minutes. I was screwing around with the Vic for at least an hour and a half last night. Maybe she just wanted some extra attention.


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I've only done one oil change myself on my XCT (it was in the shop for tires, other stuff, and I just had different dealers do earlier ones), but it went perfectly... as did Beo's earlier changes. Exactly 4.5 quarts.

Some questions:

- Did you remember to have the oil-fill cap off during the drain process?

- Did you rock the bike back and forth a bit while upright, during the drain process?

- How long did you let it drain on the sidestand?

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Ha Ha , maybe attention was what she needed , but that stress is something you probably do not . If I were in your shoes I may be fairly alarmed by your findings ... Next change I would pay strict attention to what comes out , and what goes in .

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I let it drain for maybe 10 minutes, moving the bike a few times from the stand to vertical, and even leaned it a bit to the right for a little while... just trying to get out as much old juice as possible. Dipstick was left in during this process, but both the drain plug and filter were removed.

You can bet I will pay close attention to what comes out next time.



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Here's a step you may want to add to your oil change procedure: after you drain your oil, pour it into an empty jug where you can verify how much came out. (those 4-5 qt. oil jugs are marked and work well) I've had your situation happen to me and I hate having to take oil out. I have a bunch of vehicles I change oil for and with this method I don't even have to keep track of their capacities. (or different requirements on a quick change w/o doing a filter)

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I let it drain for maybe 10 minutes, moving the bike a few times from the stand to vertical, and even leaned it a bit to the right for a little while... just trying to get out as much old juice as possible. Dipstick was left in during this process, but both the drain plug and filter were removed.

You can bet I will pay close attention to what comes out next time.
Well, the official (shop manual) instructions don't mention removing the dipstick (until, it's assumed, you go to put oil in), but I've always done that on prior bikes, and my one change on the XCT. I wonder if you create a sort of mini vacuum situation -- like your finger on top of a straw -- if you don't remove the dipstick during the drain process. Not an engineer, not a former mech, etc., but just my thinking on this...

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I too loosen my dipstick its like second nature . Whether it makes a difference , I have no idea !

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