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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 07-22-2011, 10:24 AM Thread Starter
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Hi guys and thanks for the responses in the past. I have a 2007 Kingpin with 4K on it and am thinking of switching to a XR. I have grown to like riding and want to take longer trips.

I did a search on the forum and read some similar questions. The answers are that they are two different bikes and similar type statements. When I looked at the specs they have very similar wheel base lengths with the XR almost 100lbs heavier.

Can anyone elaborate? Thoughts?

Where is best place to sell the Kingpin if I go that way?

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post #2 of 15 (permalink) Old 07-22-2011, 10:35 AM Thread Starter
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Default forgot to mention

I am 6'4" so don't know if one bike fits better than the other. I have only rode the kingpin and I think it takes a while of riding to really tell how something fits.

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best advice I can give is be realistic. KBB on 2007 Kingpin is 7k trade, 10k retail. So, if you might be able to sell it for 8.5k. Best place to sell on your own, is probably craigslist...

For speed and convenience, you might see how close the dealer will come in on a trade. Or, they might have a consignment program...

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I've ridden a KP several times and own a 2011 XR. I think you will really like the XR. It just feels like a more modern bike and handles superbly. Also, there will be a lot more room for you to stretch out on the XR. I am only 6' and noticed a big difference in room when I rode both bikes, particularly with the floorboards and layout. It should be an even bigger difference for you. As for the weight, I came from a Star Warrior that weighed about 670lbs. With the options on my XR, its probably closer to 800lbs. But the weight is held so low that it is never a problem. It's actually a lot easier to handle at low speeds than my Warrior was.

Not sure if you have bags on your KP, but I love the locking hardbags on the XR. I ride a lot more because of these bags - I take it to work, grocery shopping, on day trips with my GF. And they are huge!

Also, the comfort and cruise control is fantastic. The ability to adjust the rear shock is great too. Overall I really love the XR!

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Not sure if you have bags on your KP, but I love the locking hardbags on the XR. I ride a lot more because of these bags - I take it to work, grocery shopping, on day trips with my GF. And they are huge!

Also, the comfort and cruise control is fantastic. The ability to adjust the rear shock is great too. Overall I really love the XR!
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I thought at first I didn't want bags, or only quick attach ones that would only go on for out of town rides. But, I was wrong. I drop off dry cleaning, pick up groceries, carry 12 packs, and etc...

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Have a list ready of all the Vic stuff that you want on your bike and bargain for the total package, you'll come out ahead that way. If you live where it gets cold, consider the lower wind deflectors, they work great - even keep legs dry in the rain. Don't even think about getting the center stand - it doesn't get a wheel off the ground and limits your lean angle. Gonna do two up riding? The passenger back rest is a must - I got the luggage rack with mine and I'm glad I did- very useful. Good luck.

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Default Thanks guys, but....

Can you please let me know what the difference would be for riding. I am guessing, that on long trips there must be a difference and didn't know if the size of the bike with bags made it more visible to cars.

Thanks for the input. I will check into the dealer trade in price. They have a 2011, xr with bags and windshield for $14,500. I am trying to not make a switch if not needed. I do notice that the middle of my back between the shoulder blades gets starts to pain a bit.

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I meant that after a couple of hours on the Kingpin I can feel a pain or tiredness between my shoulder blades. Didn't know if the XR would be different due to its size etc. I checked the specs and the wheel base of the XR is less than an inch longer however the seat to floor board distance is longer.

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Can you please let me know what the difference would be for riding. I am guessing, that on long trips there must be a difference and didn't know if the size of the bike with bags made it more visible to cars.

Thanks for the input. I will check into the dealer trade in price. They have a 2011, xr with bags and windshield for $14,500. I am trying to not make a switch if not needed. I do notice that the middle of my back between the shoulder blades gets starts to pain a bit.

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John, Although he's already quoting you a good price, under the heading that it doesn't hurt to ask, see if he'll throw in the lowers and a back rest (with rack?) for the same price, or very little more. I'm not clear about what "difference" you are referring to. If its the difference between your present bike and a XR, the answer is yes, its a bit larger and heavier. Does that matter in the long haul? Not one bit, except for more comfort for rider and passenger and greater carrying capacity. The ride and handling of the Cross bikes is very refined and rider friendly and like any bike, once you are acclimated to it, it will seem like a much smaller bike than it does to you now. Re the pain in your back, you'll find the ergos on the XR much more to your liking. The foot controls are adjustable fore and aft and the bars can be rotated up or down. I have done over 400 mile days on my XR with no discomfort. I have done 700 mile days on previous bikes (full boat tourers) with no discomfort because I fine tuned the ergos and the saddle to suit me. Ya gotta make the bike fit you.

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I just started riding as in under 1K miles under my belt. I am finding that I love it and it is a great stress release. Took a trip on the Kingpin last weekend and used back pack to carry my stuff. But since I am new to biking I am looking for advice from you seasoned guys.

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