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Has anyone compared the VM1/OEM cams what difference does VM1 make? I'm trying to decide what changes I want to make to my XCT. I did a search on here and several owner had put the cam in there engine but did not say what effect it had. (That I could find) So if this is a repeat sorry.

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go to Lloydz and buy the touring cams and a fuel tinner and be done with it.
For cheaper power put in Lloydz timing wheel. Either way if you get cams or not every one adds the timing wheel.

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Well their website shows a graph with a Cross bike with a RPW slip on at 84/100. Then the same bike with the cams at 102/105. While HP is nice I'd rather the cams be geared more for a bigger torque increase. $500 for 5 foot pounds of torque doesn't seem worth it to me. I'd personally never really use the big HP increase. I like traffic light to traffic light torque not highway horsepower. But that's just me.

The curve seems fairly steady so it didn't increase low end torque early in the powerband but by about 5 foot pounds too.

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go to Lloydz and buy the touring cams and a fuel tinner and be done with it.
For cheaper power put in Lloydz timing wheel. Either way if you get cams or not every one adds the timing wheel.

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I went to the Lloydz site as you said. The VM1 is the number on price quote from Rylan at the Vic shop. After visiting the Lloydz site I believe he means the HOH-VM1-DR cam. The cam was not in my list of things to do but recommended by Rylan, so am interested in what results would be. My list had D&D mufflers, Lloydz air filter, Power Commander V and timing wheel.

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My signature shows the 115/115 gain. This is what you can expect with your set up as well. Dyno tuned of course.

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I went to the Lloydz site as you said. The VM1 is the number on price quote from Rylan at the Vic shop. After visiting the Lloydz site I believe he means the HOH-VM1-DR cam. The cam was not in my list of things to do but recommended by Rylan, so am interested in what results would be. My list had D&D mufflers, Lloydz air filter, Power Commander V and timing wheel.
I think that is a good list. I am doing close to the same thing. I'll be doing a Bassini 2 into 1 to hopefully pull in a bit more low end.
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I'll be doing a Bassini 2 into 1 to hopefully pull in a bit more low end.
What makes you think a Bassani 2-1 will be better on the low end?

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Well their website shows a graph with a Cross bike with a RPW slip on at 84/100. Then the same bike with the cams at 102/105. While HP is nice I'd rather the cams be geared more for a bigger torque increase. $500 for 5 foot pounds of torque doesn't seem worth it to me. I'd personally never really use the big HP increase. I like traffic light to traffic light torque not highway horsepower. But that's just me.

The curve seems fairly steady so it didn't increase low end torque early in the powerband but by about 5 foot pounds too.
In that case, skip the cams. But, do the adjustable timing wheel, high flow air filter and air strip modification, and a good set of pipes with a fuel TUNER (not a fuel tinner, whatever that is). For the tuner, I would recommend a Power Commander V with Autotune AT-300.

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Has anyone compared the VM1/OEM cams what difference does VM1 make? I'm trying to decide what changes I want to make to my XCT. I did a search on here and several owner had put the cam in there engine but did not say what effect it had. (That I could find) So if this is a repeat sorry.
I have the cams,pcv/auto tune,timing wheel, air filter, and a underdrive pulley. I do not regret any of these mods. On the other hand If you are looking to save some green start your mods with a underdrive pulley from conquest customs. This will make your cross bike a lot of fun to ride.
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I have the cams,pcv/auto tune,timing wheel, air filter, and a underdrive pulley. I do not regret any of these mods. On the other hand If you are looking to save some green start your mods with a underdrive pulley from conquest customs. This will make your cross bike a lot of fun to ride.
Under drive pulley=not ideal for long distance highway riding.
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