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post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old 09-07-2011, 09:56 PM Thread Starter
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I'm a long-time GoldWing rider (had three of them since 84). Great bike--loved all three of them. About six months ago I got Harley fever. Time for a new bike, anyway (you know how that goes!). Rented a Street Glide for the weekend and had more fun on that bike than I've had on all three of my Wings put together.

So, after a few rides, was very close to buying a Harley Road Glide Ultra. In the course of firming up my decision, the XCT 2012 surfaced. It took my breath away. I've never considered a Victory before--but this bike really got my attention.

I still haven't ridden one but will this weekend. The dealer passed the "friendly" test today--talked to a couple of very nice guys (GM and an engaged sales guy) and pretty quickly had a warm and fuzzy dealer feeling (which, by the way, I also had with the H-D dealer).

Only one thing sorta jammed me up a little. The GM, as nearly a parting comment, said, "Oh yeah, it's really important to buy the Stage 1 kit. You won't be happy without it." Now, I'm an old guy. I'm not gonna try to wheelie from stoplight to stoplight. I just want a reliable, comfortable bike that cruises comfortably at 75mph or so and will let me pass a big truck without much fuss.

The GM gave me the advice without qualifying what's important to me. Yeah, I'd like a nice V-Twin sound, but I don't need to jar anyone's fillings out. Yeah, I'd like to get to 60 or so merging onto a highway without the bike panting.

What gives? Do I need that Stage 1?
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106" Vics don't pant, period. Granted, it ain't no GL1800, but it'll whup ass on most any H-D out there. Out of the box, the Cross bikes are fantastic in every respect. Although this is my first cruiser (like you, I had full boat touring bikes for decades) I found the exhaust too quiet, so I drilled the muffler baffles and deleted the O2 sensors per information you can find through a search in this forum. I can leave home without the neighbors knowing and I can make her bark when accelerating hard getting onto a freeway. One of the fun things about a big V-twin over Jap multis. My XR is not lacking for power in the least, but if more is desired, there are many ways to go per mods discussed in this forum. I think that GM was just trying to put some profit icing on his cake. The one thing you have to do in order to know what the Cross bikes are about is take a test ride - one that involves some really tight twisties. That's what sold me after being impressed with the features. I saw my first XCT a few days ago and all I can say is WOW! What a unique bike - its like no other on the road. Which suits me just fine.

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About Stage1 kit... it depends on who you ask. If you were to ask me, Stage1 is not worth the investment as it's almost as quiet as the stock pipes. If you're doing Stage1 for more power, that's another story, but these bikes have plenty of horsepower and torque in their stock form.

I liked the quiet stock pipes, but got bored of them after almost a year, and went with a set of D&D slip-ons. Love the sound - louder and deeper than Stage 1 pipes.

FYI, your dealer might also say you need extended warranty, paint finish and lo-jack. They work on commission so you can't blame 'em for trying, but use your best judgement when attempting to throw money out the window.

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I purchased my 2011 XC from a member on this forum that had done a ton of nice cosmetic changes and bought all the options minus any engine changes. I still own my Bonnie T100 and love her handling and acceleration (she's a light steel pony) but my XC is bigger...has a ton of storage (it came with the trunk)...corners like my bonnie (still haven't scraped the HUGE foot boards)...and reaches 'merging speed' with no problems at all (I commute in the DFW area so merging/braking/getting out of the way are critical daily requirements). I find the XCs low end a little on the weak side but nothing a little twist of the wrist doesn't fix...so I wouldn't worry about the bike lacking any power.

Funny, I was looking at moving to a sport touring bike before I got the hankering for a cruiser (with some help from my wife)...the ST, Connie, Wing, and BMWs were all on my short list. But once I rode the XC (my Metal Monster) I was hooked (just like when I rode my bonnie). Learning about the bike's reliability (and quirks) made my desire grow even more!

I love motorcycling...passionate about the feeling I get riding (even my 120+ mile daily commute)...the XC has met and exceeded my expectations and fuels my passion every time I ride her or see her sitting in the garage...she's definitely a keeper just like my bonnie.

Hope you enjoy the test ride...let us know how you feel it compares to the HD (that was the cruiser I thought I'd buy if I ever got a cruiser...go figure), and would love to hear comparisons to your wings...;~)
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Great info, guys, thanks a ton. I'll keep you posted on that test ride. I'm really looking forward to it. I did put a deposit on a black 2012 XCT they're getting in three weeks--contingent on a good test ride. Which I am pretty sure will go just fine.

But one more thing.. how about Victory's extended warranty? Is that a good thing. I'm not much of a mechanic--and I don't consider bikes a lifestyle choice--I just want to ride! With the electronics alone on the XTC, I think the Stage1 money the GM wanted would better serve me with the extended warranty. Am I on the right track?

Thanks again!
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Like RogueRider, I was seriously considering an ST for my next bike. Had it between the Connie and the FJR, all I needed was a test ride. Then I saw the XC. Rented one for a day in Las Vegas (2010 model). Had not ridden in over 7 months due to me being in Afghanistan (leaving next week and get my new bike!!!!!) and rode her for 8 hours and over 400 miles. I was fully expecting to be sore in the thighs and back for 3 days. The only issues I had was being tired that night and my left wrist being dead weak the next day. Otherwise, no issues. I was sold on that bike immediately. She is beautiful, fun to ride and as stock, the most comfortable bike I have ridden. The ST's didn't go any further. Got a great deal in CT on my new bike and pick her up on the 20th. You will not regret the purchase.

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I think the Victory Stage 1 is about a grand. If you were to do an aftermarket stage 1 with filter, gasket under tank removed, D&D mufflers or one of many other options, and a Power Commander V, you spend about the same amount and have much more for your money.

Or you could read THIS THREAD and do it for $50 or so. I ran it like that for a long time until yesterday when I installed the Nascar6 re-cored stock mufflers. It sound really good now. Mean even. They are $200 plus shipping both ways.

Witchdoctors just came out with two models of slip-on's that caught my eye. A fully cored stock muffle with no baffles (loud) and a re-cored set of stockers that sound really good going by the video. If you like a bit of sound but not too much; the D&D's or Witchdoctors re-cored ($280 or so) would be excellent choices.

Either way you go; the dealer is correct in that the motor needs to breathe and the EPA mandates have it restricted down quite a bit so a Stage 1 really is in your best interest. If you want to really wake up the motor; get some of the Lloydz VM-1 cams installed. The stock Freedom motor excels in the mid range but the cams bring out the low end grunt (from what I'm told) that many like. I hope to get them installed in mine in the not-too-distant future.
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The stage 1 kit does not make the bike louder but it does give it a little more ooomph and sound when you get on it. It's a personal choice. My 2011 had plenty of passing power and was almost too quiet. When I purchased my 2012 XCT I got a discount on the stage 1 (under $700) and because I bought it at the time of purchase they agreed to install the kit for free.

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But one more thing.. how about Victory's extended warranty? Is that a good thing. I'm not much of a mechanic--and I don't consider bikes a lifestyle choice--I just want to ride! With the electronics alone on the XTC, I think the Stage1 money the GM wanted would better serve me with the extended warranty. Am I on the right track? Thanks again!
I passed on the extended warranty cuz I never read about any major breakdowns in these forums and my dealer said I'd just be throwing money at him as the only time Vics come in are for accessories or regular maintenance. However, if you really think you want one, I have heard of them being offered as low as $350. Keep in mind that EWs are primarily commission builders and are in effect during that period in which they are LEAST needed.

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I passed on the extended warranty cuz I never read about any major breakdowns in these forums and my dealer said I'd just be throwing money at him as the only time Vics come in are for accessories or regular maintenance. However, if you really think you want one, I have heard of them being offered as low as $350. Keep in mind that EWs are primarily commission builders and are in effect during that period in which they are LEAST needed.

+1. I had the same experience

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