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Well bike is in the shop. My HMD 2/3 inch lowering link has definitively caused issues. Not only is my shock wearing prematurely but it seems the HMD link didn't use the factory bushings, whether that is good or bad I will not comment on, but my upper bolt completely snapped from the angle, pressure, and possible design.

As a lightweight it certainly wasn't from overloaded and in Florida we're pretty flat.

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oh that sux. i have the witchdoctor 1" lowering

no issues yet but that sounds terrible. anyone else having issues?
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Well bike is in the shop. My HMD 2/3 inch lowering link has definitively caused issues. Not only is my shock wearing prematurely but it seems the HMD link didn't use the factory bushings, whether that is good or bad I will not comment on, but my upper bolt completely snapped from the angle, pressure, and possible design.

As a lightweight it certainly wasn't from overloaded and in Florida we're pretty flat.

Be forewarned on 2 inch lowering kits.
I and Larry had a bolt failure last year on the 1" lowering kit.. I'm not sure what grade bolt he is using as the head was lost in the failure.. I replaced it with grade 8 bolt and so far no problems.. Larry on the other hand had a weld fail at the top joint.. I looked at mine the other day and it seems intact as far as I can tell..?
What is the premature wear on the shock ...?
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I think I'm just going to shorten my stock link. These threads are getting more and more common.

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Stopped by dealer so he could show me what happened and why. After seeing the HMD design and bolt, compared to my new HotVic which is designed like factory, I can only say no wonder it failed. In my opinion a very poor design. I included pics of both parts, you decide for yourself which you'd rather trust or buy. I'll let you guess which was the HMD too.

As for the shock, in their opinion I had to keep so much air in the shock and still bottomed out so much, the shock started to "seep", and this may also be due to the fact I was not aware the bolt sheared and the shock was taking extra abuse. Just theories.
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Apparently , there was little or no R & D done on this product before being put to market ..... Oh and I wouldn't try to return it , from what I have read he doesn't accept returns .....

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Apparently , there was little or no R & D done on this product before being put to market ..... Oh and I wouldn't try to return it , from what I have read he doesn't accept returns .....
I am trying not to bash, but he is useless. I have bought other products from him and zero service after the sale. I won't do business with him, I won't recommend him, but that's a personal opinion. I know the dealer working on my bike has bought/installed some of his bars and after seeing this, probably won't work with him anymore. I saw his bars on the dealers wall, the welds were really ugly compared to my old set of SVT 2" chubbies. I hate to see custom parts makers/retailers for our bikes get bad reviews, but it is what it is.

Even if I had installed/seen this part and it's poor design compare to stock when I bought it, he would not have taken it back. I didn't learn of the difference until it failed. He stands behind nothing, but is always available before the sale.

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what grade was the hmd kit bolt? just curious.


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I didn't pay attention when I installed the link but replaced it with a grade 8. I took it out and looked at it the other day after Larry had a weld failure and it looked fine. However I just heard today about another bolt failure locally. didn't break but was bent. I talked to Jon at witchdoctor and he is offering a reduced price to those of us that are afraid of Mikes design. Nothing personal about Mike or his products but having another bolt failure or worse just scares me. The 1st failure was at 65 with my wife and thankfully it was between curves and not in a curve. Again not a slam at Mike or his products. He has been more than nice in the past.
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Stopped by dealer so he could show me what happened and why. After seeing the HMD design and bolt, compared to my new HotVic which is designed like factory, I can only say no wonder it failed. In my opinion a very poor design. I included pics of both parts, you decide for yourself which you'd rather trust or buy. I'll let you guess which was the HMD too.

As for the shock, in their opinion I had to keep so much air in the shock and still bottomed out so much, the shock started to "seep", and this may also be due to the fact I was not aware the bolt sheared and the shock was taking extra abuse. Just theories.
That is exactly where mine broke but the head was lost so im not sure what grade the bolt was. was it grade 8...? the piece that was left looked like it had been broken for sometime as the break wasn't shine as one would expect from a fresh break. I'm replacing the link and I'm hoping the shock isn't effected.
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