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Default Hydraulic clutch mod...

Have noticed much discussion on this, use of other model components , and an add for a cross bike kit.

Is this really a practical / desirable modification ?..or just for bragging rights at the bar...

Are the cables really that unreliable ?
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Have noticed much discussion on this, use of other model components , and an add for a cross bike kit.

Is this really a practical / desirable modification ?..or just for bragging rights at the bar...

Are the cables really that unreliable ?
The way I see it is that on a forum you hear more about the bad than the good. If everybody who hasn't had a clutch cable brake came on here to promote it, there wouldn't be this constant talk about bad cables. If the cable breaks you have an alternative (save ur ride). If the hydraulic system fails, you are forced to use the old vice grip trick on the actuator arm, or get a flat bed. I will continue to maintain my stock 04' cable.

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hydraulic clutch has no cable to break. How far can you go with a broken cable

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Racers will frequently tell you that a cable clutch offers more feedback than an hydraulic one. As a racer I've not noticed the difference but then again, I've yet to actually RACE a bike with anything but a cable clutch.

As for the failure thing, the argument is that with a cable you could have a failure but a cheap replacement (save-ur-ride) will have you back on the road quick and easy where hydraulics have no backup. What that argument fails to take into account is that failures with hydraulics are incredibly rare. Yes, it can happen as evidenced by the two bikes in my basement right now (both aprilias) that have bad seals on the slave cylinders (known issue with the first gen v-twin apes) resulting in a clutch that won't disengage. But again, this is extremely uncommon. I don't have a problem with my cable clutch and will carry a save-ur-ride just in case but that's mostly because I don't care to spend the money on an hydraulic set up. Otherwise I'd go hydro and forget about it.

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Racers will frequently tell you that a cable clutch offers more feedback than an hydraulic one. As a racer I've not noticed the difference but then again, I've yet to actually RACE a bike with anything but a cable clutch.

As for the failure thing, the argument is that with a cable you could have a failure but a cheap replacement (save-ur-ride) will have you back on the road quick and easy where hydraulics have no backup. What that argument fails to take into account is that failures with hydraulics are incredibly rare. Yes, it can happen as evidenced by the two bikes in my basement right now (both aprilias) that have bad seals on the slave cylinders (known issue with the first gen v-twin apes) resulting in a clutch that won't disengage. But again, this is extremely uncommon. I don't have a problem with my cable clutch and will carry a save-ur-ride just in case but that's mostly because I don't care to spend the money on an hydraulic set up. Otherwise I'd go hydro and forget about it.
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If maintained properly, cables should last a long time. Having said that, I installed the hydraulic clutch. My Cavalcade and GoldWing both had them, and I got used to it over the last 14 years.



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Cool man you have apes on a sport bike ?
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Vic is cheap ass and the cable will bind up at the housing lever. You have to keep it lubed. Back about thirty years ago we all had the same problem. H-D can up with a fool proof cable but Vic is to cheap to do the same.
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I've had at least six bikes with hydraulic clutches dating back to a 1983 Sport Saber and the most recent being a 2006 Stratoliner. I spent 16 years being irritated with HD's cable clutch on my Glide but in truth the damn thing lasted 150k miles before it corroded enough that I had to change it out.

A few years ago a cable clutch was a deal breaker for me with Victory but after riding one I realized that the problem was with me not the clutch.

Personally I wish that Victory would step into the 21st century and put hydraulics on from the factory but on the other hand the new shielded cables are pretty bullet proof. In the past 40 years of riding and somewhere north of a million miles on bikes I can honestly say that the only clutch cables that I've had fail without warning were on 1960's vintage Triumphs.

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hydraulic clutch has no cable to break. How far can you go with a broken cable
Exactly why i changed to the hydraulic clutch.

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