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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 06-13-2014, 07:14 PM Thread Starter
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Ok after typing in Speed Bleeders and not getting shit does anyone know for sure the model of speed bleeders I need to order for my 2013 CCT? I believe it's SB8125L??

Also EBC HH sintered brake pads? Amazon, Dennie Kirk and others all show different pad #'s too! Witchdoctors shows 2 different pads for front and back. Help??

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In this thread from a few months ago -- https://www.victoryforums.com/showthread.php?t=71593 -- ByteN2it says (post #3), "my Vision took the SB8125's & I'm guessing the Cross bike's are the same."

This at least agrees with SpeedBleeder's 1999-2003 specification (see www.speedbleeder.com/Motorcycle%20Sizes.htm ). I think I'll email them, and ask if they'd mind adding another 10 or 11 years to that chart for Vics.

As I (coincidentally?) noted on the v-o-g.n-e-t a little while ago, the SB8125 and SB8125L are the same thing, for all practical purposes. See this page: http://www.speedbleeder.com/News.htm#Honda%20Goldw... .

One of these days I'll get around to ordering the SB8125L version for my '12 XCT, and confirm that it's the right size for my bike. Or you can beat me to it.

I wrote a DIY page on SpeedBleeders for Valkyrie owners about a dozen years ago -- see http://www.billanddot.com/brake-bleeding.htm , if you're interested -- and at that time wrote: "The SB8125 model... is the same as SB8125L, only with a shorter nipple; I think the SB8125L is easier to work with (e.g., to put a plastic tube on)." I think that's still the case today.

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Funny you mentioned this...
I just finished putting Speed Bleeders on my bike ('13 XC) an hour ago. I got the 8125L as recommended (via call to SB).
They went on super easy, and got that last little bit of air out from my wheel/bar swap (I must have tilted the brake cylinder letting air in)
SOLID brakes in less than 10 minutes, including the bleeder install. I LOVE these things! I had the bleeder bag from my HD, and that thing is a godsend.
Now I need to get some new pads though. The initial bite from the stock pads leaves a lot to be desired. I had 2 sets of Lyndall Z-Plus pads on order, but they weren't going to arrive before my trip to the Tail of the Dragon next week. I'll probably re-order them when I get back, but was going to see how well the bleeding worked.
Good enough for now....



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dennis kirk Part #194900

keep in mind we use the same pad as a gold wing 1800
speed bleeders are good for the front still need four hands for rear

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speed bleeders are good for the front still need four hands for rear
visionjohnny: could I get you to elaborate on that part about needing four hands for the rear?

I have yet to get the Speed Bleeders for my XCT, but I have been thinking about them lately, because it's time I got around to changing the fluid (a little over two years on my bike now).

I have, however, used SBs in the past, on my Valkyrie, and did the rear on that bike in a similar manner to the front. That is:

- Put the SB drain-bag-with-hose over the SB.
- Cracked the SB open a quarter- to a half-turn.
- Took the cover off the rear brake reservoir.
- Gently pumped the rear brake pedal with one hand, while carefully and slowly pouring from a fresh bottle of fluid, into the reservoir (as its level decreases)
- Watched the tube of the drain bag, until seeing the fresh fluid in it, and that no bubbles were present.
- Stopped pouring, turn the SB back that quarter- to half-turn, took the bag-tube off.
- Put the cover back on the reservoir.
- Pumped the brakes a few times, to make sure they worked OK.

Bottom line: I don't see why you'd need four hands for the rear bleeding with Speed Bleeders, any more than you'd need four hands for the front lines. What am I missing here? As I say, I haven't actually done this on my Vic yet, so there may be some problem I'm not aware of...

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Bill I believe VJ means that because the caliper is on the left side of the bike and the reservoir is on the right side of the bike. I had these bleeders on my 2006 Kawasaki Nomad and the caliper was on the same side as the reservoir.

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Bill I believe VJ means that because the caliper is on the left side of the bike and the reservoir is on the right side of the bike. I had these bleeders on my 2006 Kawasaki Nomad and the caliper was on the same side as the reservoir.
Ah, I see, thanks. You think the bag/tube thingy they sell -- I think I still have one, somewhere on some shelf in my garage -- is long enough that you can see it when working on the right side of the bike?

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I usually bleed the slower way, remove the reservoir cap, crack the bleeder half a turn and let gravity do the rest, maybe a few light taps on the lever or pedal to get things moving.
Gotta keep an eye that the fluid level in the reservoir don't run out.
Takes longer and it less invasive specially on older vehicles where you don't want the master cylinder cups going into the depths of the cylinder where they wouldn't normally go.
I just fitted overhauled front calipers and an inline VH44 brake booster and rear wheel cylinders to a 1967 Chrysler Valiant that I'm restoring, and I bled it all in a one man operation using gravity bleeding.
All good provided you're not in a hurry.

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I took pics of the correct pads for the X-bikes from EBC.





I got these from Noemtz. He, at the time anyway, was willing to accept the Vision pads the company that would not accept a return in trade. I think he has enough Vision pads now though.
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bob your thumb is covering the bottom part #. I see the 196HH I guess is the back brake pads.

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