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post #1 of 66 (permalink) Old 07-14-2014, 08:44 AM Thread Starter
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I'm having this problem when using my Stebel horn. When I use the horn my flasher indicator and cruise control lights on the instrument panel briefly light up when pressing the horn button?? My wiring connection listed below:

30 = (+) Stebel horn red wire
87 = (+) batt pwr
86 = (-) grey wire old horn
85 = (+) blk wire old horn
BATT NEG = (-) Stebel horn blk wire

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I wonder if the compressor motor is too much draw for that circuit. I probably would have run a relay; horn button activates the relay, and relay activates the horn. Less draw on the built-in horn circuit.



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I used this wiring harness with 30amp fuse.


So it's drawing directly from the BATT.

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This is a common problem when installing the stebel, wolo, or similar. Lots of threads here and on the V M C.

Seems that following the install directions, relay or not, there is feedback across the horn activation switch back into the circuit. Long presses will pop the 10a fuse and you will lose turn signals, cruise, and horn.

Many different attempts to solve it, including an isolated circuit with an external switch other than the oem one, but that is a fugly solution.

I tried different relays of varying quality with no joy. Kevin Cross made a suggestion of replacing the 10a with a 15a and just carry on. I suppose as long as you only use the horn for short blasts this is a workable solution.

No, I have not tested every possible combination of turns, hazards, cruise, and horn. I have heard of some disengaging the cruise by using the horn, but I have to wonder why that particular scenario occurs.

Bottom line, live with it or change it. I have mine this way for 2+ years with no damage.
Others have opted for the Framm Freeway Blaster mounted in the original position using the original circuit with no external battery connection.

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I wonder if the compressor motor is too much draw for that circuit. I probably would have run a relay; horn button activates the relay, and relay activates the horn. Less draw on the built-in horn circuit.
He is running a relay, the numbers represent the posts on the relay that comes with a Stebel horn.

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30 = (+) Stebel horn red wire
87 = (+) batt pwr
86 = (-) grey wire old horn
85 = (+) blk wire old horn
BATT NEG = (-) Stebel horn blk wire

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He is running a relay, the numbers represent the posts on the relay that comes with a Stebel horn.
Yep, you're right. My bad.



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i have the wolo bad boy and i have no problems at all. if you tap into an exisiting circuit, yea you will pull the circuit down. my relay is switched off the stock horn wires. take the two wires off the horn, connect them to the relay coil ( small current drain). the power to the horn is then taken directly to the battery via the of contacts, through a inline 20A fuse. the negative terminal of the horn wired directly to the battery. again, i have no problems at all and i have used it a LOT

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another thing to try. hook the relay up and just the relay. press the horn button and make sure you can hear the relay click (being energized)

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one thing i did notice in the wireing diagram for the vic. I am not sure WHY they ever wired a switch like that. their Engineer must not have passed EET 101. but i still dont see how feedback from the relay(switch) can cause this. the relay uses less current than the original horn. I think there is something else. just fyi.

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I installed a Wolo 2 years ago with relay to battery and get the same feedback. Works well in any event and I don't worry about it anymore. I think Victory has some quirky wiring at times.

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