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I have another general question. First, I am not in law enforcement of any kind, and this question/ situation could be considered hypothetical. I know a person who used to have motorcycle endorsement on their drivers license, but let it drop after several years of owning no bike. They have gone down to the DMV and took a written test and received their motorcycle learners permit. To get their motorcycle license, they have to bring a bike and take a drivers test in an empty parking lot with cones set up. At a local dealer, they were told they could not test drive (to purchase) a bike without a license.

Hmmm, need a bike to get a license. Need a license to get a bike. For reals? lol

HYPOTHETICALLY, how many actually ride without a license. My friend is retired military, but does not ever go on base anymore, so that is not an issue.

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He only needs the license to test ride, not to buy. I wouldn't let an unlicensed person ride anything of mine. Prolly isn't legal or insurable.
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Could always take the safety course. You can ride their bike and recieve a license at the end of the class. As for the test ride, yeah that's a liability on the dealer if they let people without a license ride their bikes.

If you ever want a good laugh go watch one of these safety riders courses. You will see people who have no clue what they are doing attempt to ride, if you can ride a bicycle and operate a manual transmission you are already above 90% of the class.

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Riding without a license is just plain lazy on a riders part. It also says they may not have the ability to pass a written & driving test. Now there is a scary thought.

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Safety course is the way to go.I recommend even seasoned riders take one at some time in their life.
Don t blame a shop for not letting anyone test drive without a MC endorsement on their drivers license.

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BRC. Problem solved. At worst, he may learn a few things and knock off a little rust. At the unthinkable it could teach him something to save his life.
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Another vote for the safety course.

Also when I bought my first bike I only had a learners permit when I got insurance. I informed my insurance company as soon as I passed my MSF course but didn't let them know I had a license. A few years later I was reviewing my policy when I got my Victory and realized that I wasn't getting the discount for having a license My fault for not telling them specifically but still pissed me off

My point however is that you also save some money on your insurance for both the MSF course as well as having a license (at least with Progressive anyway).

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I have another general question. First, I am not in law enforcement of any kind, and this question/ situation could be considered hypothetical. I know a person who used to have motorcycle endorsement on their drivers license, but let it drop after several years of owning no bike. They have gone down to the DMV and took a written test and received their motorcycle learners permit. To get their motorcycle license, they have to bring a bike and take a drivers test in an empty parking lot with cones set up. At a local dealer, they were told they could not test drive (to purchase) a bike without a license.

Hmmm, need a bike to get a license. Need a license to get a bike. For reals? lol

HYPOTHETICALLY, how many actually ride without a license. My friend is retired military, but does not ever go on base anymore, so that is not an issue.

Thoughts?
Nothing wrong with riding with your permit. But that will get annoying after a while. You can't ride after dusk and you can't have a passenger. And permit is only valid for a year, so you have to re-take the test every year.

Riding without a permit OR license would be really stupid, as that is a criminal offense.
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Could always take the safety course. You can ride their bike and recieve a license at the end of the class. As for the test ride, yeah that's a liability on the dealer if they let people without a license ride their bikes.

If you ever want a good laugh go watch one of these safety riders courses. You will see people who have no clue what they are doing attempt to ride, if you can ride a bicycle and operate a manual transmission you are already above 90% of the class.
Some may call it a good laugh. I personally call it "holy sh**, that person is sharing roads with me!"

In my class when I got my license, there was a gal who dropped the bike six times through the two days of practice. She screwed up virtually every exercise we worked on. Absolutely had no business being on a bike. Come time for the actual test, she friggin nailed it. Since the instructors are not able to deny someone a license based on what happened during the practice times, she got her license. Makes me scared, quite frankly, for HER life. I hope she learned how to really ride since then, because the thought of her on a bike is just alarming.
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I have another general question. First, I am not in law enforcement of any kind, and this question/ situation could be considered hypothetical. I know a person who used to have motorcycle endorsement on their drivers license, but let it drop after several years of owning no bike. They have gone down to the DMV and took a written test and received their motorcycle learners permit. To get their motorcycle license, they have to bring a bike and take a drivers test in an empty parking lot with cones set up. At a local dealer, they were told they could not test drive (to purchase) a bike without a license.

Hmmm, need a bike to get a license. Need a license to get a bike. For reals? lol

HYPOTHETICALLY, how many actually ride without a license. My friend is retired military, but does not ever go on base anymore, so that is not an issue.

Thoughts?
Insurance to cover there ass would not if no endorsement

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