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post #1 of 50 (permalink) Old 08-28-2015, 09:02 PM Thread Starter
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he tells it like it is

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he tells it like it is
I'd love to have a few beers with Lloyd. Straight shooter and can't wait to see what the new parts are.

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Actually, any guesses or info on the "products" to help those who can't get to or don't have a dyno tuner locally? Maybe a Lloydz Autotune? Lloydz AFR gauge?
Instant Dyno Tuner.. just add water?

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Actually, any guesses or info on the "products" to help those who can't get to or don't have a dyno tuner locally? Maybe a Lloydz Autotune? Lloydz AFR gauge?
Instant Dyno Tuner.. just add water?
Dial-a-dyno!....just plug your phone into your bike via USB and Ring LLOYDZ for a dial your own ....no olives no anchovies
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Maybe a Lloydz Autotune?
Lloydz AFR gauge?
No and no.

I could have sworn the video addressed getting the bike to a COMPETENT dyno tuner....

He said what I always say on the forums. Either the guy knows how to tune a power commander or he doesn't. Local shop here will tune anything from a dirt bike to a Harley to a 'Busa... carburetor or fi... Either you know how to "TUNE" or you don't.

Suzuki DRZ 250 comes in with 15 HP and leaves with 20 HP. That's 25% more power from just getting the jetting right. Tuning is paramount. Bikes with a really bad tune run pretty damned good, so the owners don't know how bad the tune is. THIS is why a good dyno tuner is needed... he'll get the most out of it and make it right.

If it's not right, what is it?

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If it's not right, what is it?
Wrong ?
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He did mention he has a couple new products coming out to help the guys who can not get to a "tuner" .....

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He did mention he has a couple new products coming out to help the guys who can not get to a "tuner" .....
Now that would be "nice" I'll be buying that one ..

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To my mind a tuner uses an oxygen sensor to adjust a fuel controller to change the output to his oxygen sensor to attain levels he feels is optimum throughout a range of operation. The end result is based on his technical knowledge/abilities and the characteristics of the engine. The dyno is simply a measuring device that displays the result of that work.

To that end, an experienced master tuner who is proficient with a specific fuel controller, mechanical or electronic, can tune an engine to the same level. He just can't give you a nice shiny picture for bragging rights.

Sure a dyno might help them see room for minimal improvements but that's drag strip stuff and of little real benefit to most of us on the street. It can also show areas of general performance for things such as intake, exhaust, cams, valves, etc but again, an experienced tuner can tell you those things already. The dyno doesn't do anything but show you a picture.

Is a dyno simply a measuring device that allows the less experienced technician to achieve the performance levels previously attained only by the true masters of the craft?

For the masters does it simply transition the measuring parameters from 'seat of the pants' to a documented level. They can get the results faster than multiple timed runs down a track but in the end I think they get to the same conclusion.

It's just a tool.
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I need to find someone in my area that knows Victorys! I just had a local shop put on a Power Commander V on my 2012 Cross Country and I picked it up just now. Has less power than when I brought it in!!! The dyno sheet says it produced 67.48 HP and 79.64 torque!?!?!? Stock they are supposed to put out over 90 hp! Anyone in the Inland Empire area of So Cal???
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