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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 05-03-2016, 07:54 AM Thread Starter
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I have a Gunner, Had it from when they first came out...
I'm very disappointed with performance of the 106 in stock form ..
ie; The red line is way too low at 54/55 hundred RPM's,
My question is will a stage 1 raise the red line on the Gunner.?...

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Stage 1 wont raise anything but the cost and maybe a few HP. I'm not sure anything is going to change the stroke (RPM's) of the engine. Just curious why you are revving so high? If you look at the Dyno charts for most of the bikes the peak HP is 3500 to 4500 and torque is at 4500- 4800.

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I don't believe so. I think you will need a fuel controller like a PC5 or PC3 and then someone to unlock the red line limiter. At least that is what I believe I read somewhere. I think you can do it without the controller but it would be to lean.

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I have a Gunner, Had it from when they first came out...
I'm very disappointed with performance of the 106 in stock form ..
ie; The red line is way too low at 54/55 hundred RPM's,
My question is will a stage 1 raise the red line on the Gunner.?...
nope,,,so called Stage One is a bit more noise and any seat of the pants increase is mostly illusion.
Pointless raising the redline on a basically stock engine as the torque is already plummeting downward from 4250 and HPs starting to flatline.
Get a decent intake and pipes, timing wheel and a PCV and the PCV can raise the limiter, had mine upped by 500rpm but really its just pissing in the wind without hotter cams.
Add cams to the mix and raise the limiter to around 6500 is the go I think...theres others here that have such setups and are better qualified to give figures.
I hope to have cams and more cubes soon on mine, then its back into the dyno again to tickle up the PCV, and gain some healthy upper rev range.
On a fairly stock bike aka Stage One youre probably better off to just grab the next gear once past peak torque.
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The reason i asked is on my Tri-Glide 103 the red line was about the same as the Gunner... Put a stage 1 in and that bumped it to 64 hundred ...So when i have to pass a row of cars on a 2 lane road, I'm not bouncing off the red line in the lower gears... I guess its apples to oranges, But the 103 keep's on pulling all the way to 64 hundred..

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stage 1 will add 2% more fuel and 2% more timing. All for $175 bucks. One of Victorys biggest jokes for new customers to believe in.
You want to change your red line send your ECM to Lloydz and he can change it for a little over $200 bucks

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Look up Lloydz Motorworks.

They have many performance enhancements all the way from air intakes to 129 cubic inch engines and superchargers.


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A higher redline doesn't mean you're making any more power or that the engine is producing usable power at the higher RPM. The torque curve on a Harley 103 starts dropping just as soon as a Freedom 106 if not sooner and the 106, especially in the steel frame bikes, makes more grunt anyway. Might could be the HD was geared wider, which is possible since the 103 does start building good torque at a lower RPM than the 106. That would would allow one to get away with a roll-on in a higher gear.
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Put in Loyddz time wheel set it +4,get good pipes,good intake,PCV and a good dyno tune.You wont need to over rev your Gunner and it will pull away and away from you HD
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top speed fix

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