Of the 17 'new' models the Dyna was the only one truly redesigned. As Polaris showed us...twisted pipes and new paint jobs do not make a 'new' model. With the exception of the M8 which will be standard in quite a few more models.
But they needed to innovate and redesign. The stock has dropped pretty hard and they are at a 'Strong Sell' rating right now. The largest complaint among potential buys is the cost.
Second largest complaint is the fact they do not even use 50% American parts anymore. If they did the cost could be better justified.
Now, if HD were priced around the same as the foreign bikes for similar packages they would recover the market losses. One Euro bike at lower cost at a better design ( and my local HD dealer sells them ) is a Triumph and their value drops faster than a Vic. Great bikes, I love the engineering. BMW has more bikes in higher teen range of the thousands with a ton more options. Guzzi, also solid bikes. As are the Japanese bikes.
One theory I do not push too much is the fact that Vic has become more noticeable and recognized this past year. I spoke to a guy I trust quite a bit who has 2 Vics and rides the snot out of them. He says he has had 3 dealers and 1 Polaris engineer tell him that within 2 years the Vic riders would once again be very happy, that they know they screwed the pooch dropping the line.
However none will tell him exactly what, not the engineer nor the dealers.
So speculating ( largely due to them NOT selling the design, name and tooling ) that they may bring back the Vic, whether under another name or the same is a guessing game...they would have 2 American made bikes on the market.
Perhaps if Injuns keep moving fast the cash will be there to market Vics and redesign them in more modern ways.
At first I thought nah...they are dumping their parts and accessories like rocks. BUT I also know manufacturing carrying costs for stock can be expensive. I have seen many corporations do this to reduce the carrying / storage costs and take the tax breaks on the losses which ups the bottom line.
But what I do know is HD has been hurting, and to have a company that large with as big a market share as it has be placed in a Strong Sell rating for the stock market does not bode well.
SO I applaud them for the attempt....it means they are least looking at what riders of today want, young and old. They dropped the Ducati buyout, but they WERE in the market. They also owned Brutale Aprilia for a few years as well. They have had Italian models since the 70's....Aermacchi doing the dirt bikes and smaller road bikes in the 250-350 CC range.
Its easy to bash Indians....BUT what IF they are selling them to gain that market and have the finances down the line to actually sell both lines?
That would satisfy both USA made big Twin riders for the clackers and the 106...and maybe a water cooled Vic engine with some newer aesthetics.
Again speculation...but it would be nice to see.
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Last edited by Kurbs; 08-25-2017 at 05:55 AM.