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Default Air box mods, DIY? 06 Vegas

ok, I asked my wallet for some Lloyds torque tubes and she just laughed at me, so.........................
looking to make my own air box mods, ideas?
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obviously the less work that it needs the better, seems I need to completely destroy the air box that is currently in (stage one) and there is basically no return from there once I start.

hours worked are irrelevant as I have more time than money . stage one leaves a lot to be desired but since I did not do it no biggie, I am comparing my 1600 Vegas to my 1500 mean streak and the mean streak pretty much blows the Vegas away currently
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So where are you going to find a dyno tuner and what kind of tuner are you going to use. PCV or Maxim

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So where are you going to find a dyno tuner and what kind of tuner are you going to use. PCV or Maxim
going with PCV as they have been around for a while. actual dyno tuning will be a while
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going with PCV as they have been around for a while. actual dyno tuning will be a while
1. Modifying the stock box won't bring much, possibly create issues. Some people have drilled holes in them, some did some strange things with them trying to re-create a tube setup.

When you modify the intake you will need a controller. PVC is the best one in my opinion, but you can also get a PCiii, wiseco, etc. for cheap.

So modifying the box before getting a controller is a tad backassward. Get the controller 1st and modify the settings as you start with other mods.

If money is an issue, try an [email protected] or Lloydz intake for a steel frame, same thing. Get a ATS maybe first .after that a PCV. Then graduate to an intake, then pipes.

Easy things now would be to remove the cats, pull the 02 connectors and use a higher flow filter like a [email protected] In fact I have 2 doing nothing.

I also have a wiseco controller I'll sell cheap.

In the future you can add cams and torque tube ( both highly recommended! ) and have the whole shebang. Without the tubes and cams I was running just over 100 HP with the setup without cams.

Screwing with the intake may be cheaper but when it starts acting up or not giving any real performance, and popping the exhaust...you will be wanting to move up anyway.

But starting with an airflow change and no controller will run the bike like crap. You can lose low end on it as well.

Do it right, even if piece by piece. You wont regret the end results.
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This is my chart for before and after with my home built torque tubes. Post 87. They made a big difference and best part is you already have everything you need except the air cleaners.

https://www.victoryforums.com/971281-post87.html


Starts around post 33. This thread would be a good one for you to read from the start.

https://www.victoryforums.com/9-victo...e-tubes-4.html


The guy I sold the bike to is still running this exact set up.
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This is my chart for before and after with my home built torque tubes. Post 87. They made a big difference and best part is you already have everything you need except the air cleaners.

https://www.victoryforums.com/971281-post87.html


Starts around post 33. This thread would be a good one for you to read from the start.

https://www.victoryforums.com/9-victo...e-tubes-4.html


The guy I sold the bike to is still running this exact set up.
Yeah mate i remember when you made them.
Very successful enterprise indeed.
Time and determination and skill saved you money.
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Might pick these up

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Youll drop intake velocity in the bottom end.
Probably ok up top.
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" " 495 cams
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" " timing wheel @4 deg.
" " Primary plate
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" " VM1 Cams
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Make sure you have a controller when you install any high flow intake or you'll have issues.

Lot of mixed opinions on that intake. I'm not saying its bad but my engineering background sees issues. I asked Allen about it, and he's a great guy. But he didn't have the answers to my questions. So i went with a proven intake, and came from a proven intake. Only ones I've seen day it's good are guys who never tried any other one. Good chance they may change their tune if they had.

Some numbers I've seen place it near the [email protected] No other data. I've had ss and now TT.



Post your numbers when you get them. Btw, auto tune will work with the pcv for that as well.
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Youll drop intake velocity in the bottom end.
Probably ok up top.
Hope it does not drop much. I do want better at the top. My 06. Vegas is a snail compared to my mean streak 1500
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