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post #1 of 52 (permalink) Old 11-22-2017, 11:19 PM Thread Starter
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Default Vegas 2011-2012 Possible Fraud????

Happy Thanksgiving!

I have been very confused why my so called 2012 Victory Vegas 8 Ball Motorcycle specs don't match the specs on other 2012 Victory Vegas 8 Ball Specs provided by Victory Motorcycles Home Web-page (I bought the bike new). But it does match the specs of a 2011 Victory Vegas 8 Ball Motorcycle.

My 2012 Vegas 8 Balls has the tires/Rims of a 2011 Vegas 8 Ball and I'm guessing the same goes with the suspension.
According to Victory Website
2012 Victory Vegas 8-Ball Motorcycle

2011 Victory Vegas 8 Ball
Front Tire Spec: 90/90 21 Rim 21 X 2.15 in
Rear Tire Specs: 180 55-B18 Rim 18 X 5.5 in

2012 Victor Vegas 8 Ball
Front Tire Spec: 130/70R18 Rim 18 X 3.0 in
Rear Tire Spec: 180/60R16 Rim 16 X 5.0 in

These tires sizes/rims are significantly different between the 2011-2012 and not interchangeable.

My motorcycle has the 2011 tires/rims sizes and could not fit the manufacture 2012 tires/ rims sizes. (I had 2 professional motorcycle shop confirm this.)

Also, the suspension of the 2012 and 2011 are significantly different, plus a few more manufacturing differences. I will have a professional shop diagnose these differences.

One last piece of evidence that worries me. The sticker on my motorcycle front lower bar. It reads the same tires/rims specs for a 2011 Victory Vegas Motorcycle. Also the ManuFactureDate (MFD) on the sticker says 9/2011. But was Registered as a 2012. I heard of Motorcycle Dealers and distributors playing with the numbers to make a motorcycle look a year newer, but really its the older model. I'm concerned this is what has happened here. According to the Victory Web-site I own a 2011, but it's registered as a 2012/sold as a 2012.

With this many discrepancies, itís difficult to believe this motorcycle is an actual 2012.

Anybody else dealt with this or have an explanation?

Thanks for any help,
Dan
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post #2 of 52 (permalink) Old 11-23-2017, 11:23 AM
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so its a leftover 2011 titled as a 2012. Lots of companies do this.
I don't know where you found that victory web site. Here what I found

Specs : 2017 Victory Vegas 8-Ball Motorcycle

2008 Vision
Mpls, MN.

Please add your state and model of bike you have. Click user CP @ top of page and then far left click edit signature. Thanks
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Maybe you bought a Chinese knock off?

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This is an odd one. First thing I'd do is talk to the dealer I bought the bike from if that was the case. If not; find any dealer, by phone will do, and ask them what might have happened.

Don't have an attitude when you call. Call with the intention of doing research to find out what is going on so you know what is going on going forward.

If after calling several dealerships you can't get an answer; a call and a letter to Polaris is likely in order. Use a service that requires them to sign for the letter and keep that proof. If necessary get an attorney involved but of course this can get expensive if it goes farther than a simple letter.

Most importantly; please let us know what you find out so we too can know the answer to this mystery.
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This is an odd one. First thing I'd do is talk to the dealer I bought the bike from if that was the case. If not; find any dealer, by phone will do, and ask them what might have happened.

Don't have an attitude when you call. Call with the intention of doing research to find out what is going on so you know what is going on going forward.

If after calling several dealerships you can't get an answer; a call and a letter to Polaris is likely in order. Use a service that requires them to sign for the letter and keep that proof. If necessary get an attorney involved but of course this can get expensive if it goes farther than a simple letter.

Most importantly; please let us know what you find out so we too can know the answer to this mystery.
If he goes through all this, and finds the bike was misstamped, titled wrong etc, what would you expect the outcome of this knowledge to produce?

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If he goes through all this, and finds the bike was misstamped, titled wrong etc, what would you expect the outcome of this knowledge to produce?
You first.
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You first.
I don't know, a free bike? 10 free bikes?
Automatic placement as the new CEO?
A million bucks?

Maybe they will just laugh and say that vehicles made in the end of one year can be stamped as sold as the next?

I have no idea.
That's why I asked.

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Maybe you should ask the OP. He is the person looking for answers to these questions.

If it were my bike I'd want to know the answers and what I expected would depend on those answers.
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Maybe you should ask the OP. He is the person looking for answers to these questions.

If it were my bike I'd want to know the answers and what I expected would depend on those answers.
I guess I'm asking you since you mentioned possibly lawyering up.

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Hopefully Polaris would be forthcoming long before needing a lawyer. I included the lawyer bit just in case they weren't.

You're new here so you aren't privy to all the conversations previously had about Victory/Polaris stonewalling people on warranty issues we've had here and other forums. If you had known about them you would likely already know why an attorney when dealing with a stubborn company is sometimes needed. It sucks but that's the way it is. The problem is always the same though; companies have lawyers on their payroll. Individuals generally don't and can't afford what they can. Same goes with the government. They will always win in the long run by out spending the plaintiff and drawing a case out for years until the well is dry. The well is never dry at the company or government unless it's a company dealing with the government.
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