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I've been adding Seafoam for years to the oil for winterization.
I have to ask, what does seafoam do that winterizes the engine?

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I have to ask, what does seafoam do that winterizes the engine?
Like I said, I don't go crazy with the stuff, just 4oz before the bike gets put up for winter storage. Seafoam does pretty much the same as it does for the fuel system, it reduces resides and moisture in the crank case, tranny and anywhere else the engine oil goes. And it IS safe for wet clutches. For me personally, storage is ~4 months in an unheated shed. The temps over a winter can swing from below zero to near 60 on some days, with all the oil pooled low, Seafoam makes me confident there's no moisture collecting in the air spaces from the temps swings over winter.
On a side note, there's a lot of positive out there about using Seafoam the way the @Tony.v mentioned.... Running a certain amount in the engine oil prior to an oil change to clean out residues. I'm okay with doing it once a year, when I change my Seafoamed oil after winter storage.

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Like I said, I don't go crazy with the stuff, just 4oz before the bike gets put up for winter storage. Seafoam does pretty much the same as it does for the fuel system, it reduces resides and moisture in the crank case, tranny and anywhere else the engine oil goes. And it IS safe for wet clutches. For me personally, storage is ~4 months in an unheated shed. The temps over a winter can swing from below zero to near 60 on some days, with all the oil pooled low, Seafoam makes me confident there's no moisture collecting in the air spaces from the temps swings over winter.
On a side note, there's a lot of positive out there about using Seafoam the way the @Tony.v mentioned.... Running a certain amount in the engine oil prior to an oil change to clean out residues. I'm okay with doing it once a year, when I change my Seafoamed oil after winter storage.
Clean out WHAT residue?
How does it stop condensation on cold metal from temperature swings by having a small amount just sitting there mixed with the oil?

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This is what the website says.... Only one bullet point about adding it to oil. No mention of any properties to winterize oil or stop condensation.

The only ingredients they will tell you are:
"Hydrocarbon blend"
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"Isopropanol"
(*Note: The exact composition of the above listed chemicals are being withheld as a trade secret)
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Clean out WHAT residue?
How does it stop condensation on cold metal from temperature swings by having a small amount just sitting there mixed with the oil?
I've stored plenty of bikes with no additives and nothing ever happened that I can recall and regular oil changes are still the most important thing for engine care. But if adding Seafoam, does no harm, gives a little extra scrub to the engine and makes me feel more assured letting my bike sit for months on end...then I'm damn well using it and will continue to use it.
As for your question, I'm not a chemist and don't know how the product actually works(and its not worth my time to dig into molecular petroleum chemistry to find out) ...I have to go on the manufacture's recommendations and experience, mine & others'

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I've stored plenty of bikes with no additives and nothing ever happened that I can recall and regular oil changes are still the most important thing for engine care. But if adding Seafoam, does no harm, gives a little extra scrub to the engine and makes me feel more assured letting my bike sit for months on end...then I'm damn well using it and will continue to use it.
As for your question, I'm not a chemist and don't know how the product actually works(and its not worth my time to dig into molecular petroleum chemistry to find out) ...I have to go on the manufacture's recommendations and experience, mine & others'
Seafoam was developed to clean carbon out of 2-cycle outboard engines. It is largely irrelevant to a 4-cycle engine. It was not intended for crankcase oil, since 2-cycle engines don't even have crankcase oil.

The chemical used to 'clean' 4-cycle engines is Nitrogen based (like 'Techroline') and Seafoam does not contain nitrogen...

All of the trouble some of these guys go through to avoid alcohol in their gasoline... but add Seafoam, which is alcohol, to their fuel...

Use it, don't use it, I don't care... all I asked is WHY do we need it?
The answer, apparently, is to make us feel like we are doing something extra for our engine.

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Seafoam was developed to clean carbon out of 2-cycle outboard engines. It is largely irrelevant to a 4-cycle engine. It was not intended for crankcase oil, since 2-cycle engines don't even have crankcase oil.

The chemical used to 'clean' 4-cycle engines is Nitrogen based (like 'Techroline') and Seafoam does not contain nitrogen...

All of the trouble some of these guys go through to avoid alcohol in their gasoline... but add Seafoam, which is alcohol, to their fuel...

Use it, don't use it, I don't care... all I asked is WHY do we need it?
The answer, apparently, is to make us feel like we are doing something extra for our engine.
You crack me up.... Now for the rest of my life I can only ever use Shell V-Power Nitro+ gasoline ....

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I can attest to Seafoams ability to clean out gunk and improve ignition. My old Voyager XII was running rough and did not have great exceloration when I bought it. After running seafoam in the gas and the oil after just the first week of use it ran far better, a night and day difference. I've use seafoam ever since in the gas at least once every two months.
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I can attest to Seafoams ability to clean out gunk and improve ignition. My old Voyager XII was running rough and did not have great exceloration when I bought it. After running seafoam in the gas and the oil after just the first week of use it ran far better, a night and day difference. I've use seafoam ever since in the gas at least once every two months.
I only put it in the oil at winter storage, but I do run a Seafoam treated tank though a couple times a season as well...

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You crack me up.... Now for the rest of my life I can only ever use Shell V-Power Nitro+ gasoline ....
You are reading far too much into what I said...

I use whatever high test gas is at whatever station I pull into. Anything 92-93 octane. Not picky. I put an ounce of MMO in the gas tanků quiets the fuel pump down substantially. I use Mobil 1 20w-50 V-Twin oil. I change it OFTEN.

Never purchased or used Seafoam in my life. See no reason to start.

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