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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 06-03-2019, 01:06 AM Thread Starter
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Well; Trump has okay'd E15 to be sold year round. It was banned during the Summer which had the effect of keeping stations from stocking it since it will require pump changes and modification.

For us who ride motorcycles this is especially bad news. Motorcycles and all small gas engines are not compatible with E15. It takes 4 gallons of non E15 gas to dilute leftover E15 in the hose to not harm cars made before 2007 and smaller engines like in bikes.

Ethanol does nothing for the environment because any possible benefit is offset by lower gas mileage per gallon. It's a lose lose for the general public. The only people who benefit from this garbage gasoline is the farmers who grow the corn and I believe they can be taken care of in better ways than to pay them to destroy our bikes, lawnmowers, boat, jet ski, snowmobile, four-wheeler, etc.

Also the farmers are not growing other food so the cost of grain and corn as feed is more expensive making meat more expensive to us since it's more profitable for the farmers to sell their corn to the ethanol makers.

As everyone knows, I generally agree with this President, but not on this. Never on this. The greater good is not being served in this case.

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Trump lifts year-round ethanol restrictions, could lower gas prices

Note: I didn't put this in the politics section because it's bigger than just politics IMHO. Plus not everyone reads that section for obvious reasons.
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you blokes are getting shafted by your government for sure, its plain to see that.
Here its not a problem to get non alcohol fuel.
However we pay LOT$ more than you do
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you blokes are getting shafted by your government for sure, its plain to see that.
You are correct on that score. It seems more and more, we are made out to be second class citizens in our own country. Ethanol does not meet any of the promises they make about it, and even a Conservative president caves in to the farm / environment lobbies who get huge subsidies. Ethanol would not exist without those subsidies. The only beneficiaries of ethanol are the growers, the processors and the transporters. The rest of us get screwed out of tax dollars and fuel mileage.

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Burning a country's food supply for fuel is a terrible situation.
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That's what we pay taxes for, so farmers can get huge subsidies to grow crap corn that should not even be fed to animals.

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That's what we pay taxes for, so farmers can get huge subsidies to grow crap corn that should not even be fed to animals.
Yeah and its not like you are short of oil reserves.
Is it REALLY that hard to get good quality gasoline over there?
Every fuel station here has top octane unleaded available , its around $1.70 a litre but
e10 is $1.35-$1.55 a litre depending on where you fill up.
No e15 here yet but it will..
as an aside theres guys with mega horsepower car engines running E85 by choice, setting their engines and fuel systems up to run it
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Here's the Aussie slant on E85, as well as ethanol in general,
https://youtu.be/ltWcgiCm4NY
drinkers will get a bit of a giggle!

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Yeah and its not like you are short of oil reserves.
Is it REALLY that hard to get good quality gasoline over there?
Every fuel station here has top octane unleaded available , its around $1.70 a litre but
e10 is $1.35-$1.55 a litre depending on where you fill up.
No e15 here yet but it will..
as an aside theres guys with mega horsepower car engines running E85 by choice, setting their engines and fuel systems up to run it
Same thing here on the E85. Usually they reserve it for the track and have at least two different tunes they can choose from. Normally one is for the E85 and the other for premium; either 91 or 93 octane depending on their area.

This is for those who drive their hot rodded cars on the street. For those who strictly race them on the quarter mile or eighth mile tracks; they may not set it up that way.
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Note that N. American differs from most of the rest of the world in how the octane rating is calculated. N. America uses the (R+M)/2 method whereas other places use other options (e.g. RON or MON). The exact same gallon of gasoline will have different octane ratings in different parts of the world as a result of this.

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Yeah and its not like you are short of oil reserves.
Is it REALLY that hard to get good quality gasoline over there?
Our fuel infrastructure, here in the US, is excellent and the quality of the fuel is also excellent. With extremely few exceptions, stations sell regular (usually 87 octane) and premium (usually 92 octane) and sometimes midgrade, a mixture of the two.

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