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Default Rather Quickly, Vision vs XC Help

Ok guys I have ridden both etc etc.
I need to hear some thoughts about the following deal.

I own a 2011 XC Blue with 10,000 miles and all the following
Forged bars, D&D Exhaust with flash, Hi Flow air filter, homemade lowers, 11" Euroflip Gustofson windshield, Rockford Amp, 6 1/2" speaker upgrade, Factory Vic Pass backrest and a set of Vic Iso grips and 500 miles on new tires.
Dealer offering $11,250 to trade on the following:
2008 Cherry Vision Tour Premium with 11,000 miles and the following
XM radio, Both Trunk and original VIC factory backrest for the vision, block off plate if I choose to ride without either, heated seat, heated grips, Also Front & Back billet alum rims with new tires, Stage 1 level 2 exhaust AND AS A buddy that owns a Vision put it,
"Just about every single piece of chrome made for the Vision." Seriously, he said about the only thing he doesn't see is a CB radio.
I can't describe the Vision as well cause I simply don't know what all the chrome pieces are called but it is loaded.
OK, being honest here, a guy put it on consignment at my dealer. He is well off so he told dealer to get a flat $12,000 and they get $1000 of it. Dealer agreed.
SO here is where I'm at,
I loose 3 years for a Vision Loaded with chrome and gain a trunk which I don't have for XC. Basically same miles, both in great great shape, both new tires, etc etc.
3 years older model Vision with chrome vs XC described above.
I understand the ride thing..... I guess I'm interested in what you all think of the deal part of the post.

Please tell me what your thoughts are NOT the buffeting vs Power Windshield etc. I rode both before and I going to ride the Vision tonight after work so as I said I need your help Quickly, is this a deal or not? Sign or NOT? I KNOW ITS MY CHOICE but talk to me..
Another option is to keep my D&D exhaust and my backrest and sell them here for most of the difference in prices. Etc.
Give me your thoughts and Ideas.
Thank You all
I'll be reading them all until 5pm. Then the ride and possible negociations (sp)
Thanks Again
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post #2 of 28 (permalink) Old 04-22-2013, 06:25 AM
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I live in Canada but there is a guy here with a 2008 Vision DLX in cherry for sale. He is asking $13900. The price on the Vision you are looking at seems to be fair. Based on that, if you really want a Vision you should try to make a deal. I have a Kingpin but I have ridden the Cross Country and the Vision. If I was planning on buying either of those bikes, it would be the Vision, hands down. Good luck on the deal.
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Unless there is some mechanical issue with your XC that you aren't happy with, there is no way I would go from the upgraded transmission to an '08, period. It's also the first year of the Vision, and while there are a lot of happy '08 owners, I just don't trust first year models. There were some issues, electronics, radio, etc.


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Ok guys I have ridden both etc etc.
I need to hear some thoughts about the following deal.

I own a 2011 XC Blue with 10,000 miles and all the following
Forged bars, D&D Exhaust with flash, Hi Flow air filter, homemade lowers, 11" Euroflip Gustofson windshield, Rockford Amp, 6 1/2" speaker upgrade, Factory Vic Pass backrest and a set of Vic Iso grips and 500 miles on new tires.
Dealer offering $11,250 to trade on the following:
2008 Cherry Vision Tour Premium with 11,000 miles and the following
XM radio, Both Trunk and original VIC factory backrest for the vision, block off plate if I choose to ride without either, heated seat, heated grips, Also Front & Back billet alum rims with new tires, Stage 1 level 2 exhaust AND AS A buddy that owns a Vision put it,
"Just about every single piece of chrome made for the Vision." Seriously, he said about the only thing he doesn't see is a CB radio.
I can't describe the Vision as well cause I simply don't know what all the chrome pieces are called but it is loaded.
OK, being honest here, a guy put it on consignment at my dealer. He is well off so he told dealer to get a flat $12,000 and they get $1000 of it. Dealer agreed.
SO here is where I'm at,
I loose 3 years for a Vision Loaded with chrome and gain a trunk which I don't have for XC. Basically same miles, both in great great shape, both new tires, etc etc.
3 years older model Vision with chrome vs XC described above.
I understand the ride thing..... I guess I'm interested in what you all think of the deal part of the post.

Please tell me what your thoughts are NOT the buffeting vs Power Windshield etc. I rode both before and I going to ride the Vision tonight after work so as I said I need your help Quickly, is this a deal or not? Sign or NOT? I KNOW ITS MY CHOICE but talk to me..
Another option is to keep my D&D exhaust and my backrest and sell them here for most of the difference in prices. Etc.
Give me your thoughts and Ideas.
Thank You all
I'll be reading them all until 5pm. Then the ride and possible negociations (sp)
Thanks Again
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Gunslinger makes good points. 2008 was the first year for the Vision. It had the older transmission which, by the way, some people prefer. The Vision for sale here has 8800 miles on it, so the bikes are very comparable. I'm sure you are aware of the upside and downside of making a change like this. It all boils down to, what YOU want.

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I loose 3 years for a Vision Loaded with chrome and gain a trunk which I don't have for XC. Basically same miles, both in great great shape, both new tires, etc etc.
I think I'd buy a trunk.

Personally, I like the Visions better, but they sell for over $2k less than an equivalent XCT new. Can't imagine that gets better with age.

OTOH, we only live once, might as well enjoy it. If that means more glittery bits, then only more glittery bits will do.




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So by your math you are debating giving the dealer

750 cash
three model years
1000 miles (10% of miles)
reportedly more curb appeal
a known history

for

a trunk
a pushbutton windshield
Sat rad (not sure that this means anything at trade in)
Bling (this means nothing at trade in)
Of these four drivers the windshield is the one factor that requires Vision ownership.The second possible Vision benefit is the 750 you front for it is likely less than what it would cost to add the equivalent bling to your Cross. That's subjective though. You had yours for years and apparently it wasn't top priority so far.

So the blue book on yours is over 15. That's probably high 10 to 15 % wherever you are.
His resale is 13 and a half.
On paper it's upside down.

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I think I'd buy a trunk.

Personally, I like the Visions better, but they sell for over $2k less than an equivalent XCT new. Can't imagine that gets better with age.

OTOH, we only live once, might as well enjoy it. If that means more glittery bits, then only more glittery bits will do.

These are good points as well. "We only live once"...........therefore, we don't always do whats best from either a practical or business standpoint, but we do things because we want to. It isn't like borrowing half a million for a house. Its only a used motorcycle. In a perfect world, you would keep your Cross Country and buy the Vision. However, the world isn't perfect. Sometimes we just do things because we can.

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With you list of what you've changed on you XC, assuming you like the mods, you're going to set yourself up for buying new exhaust and stereo upgrades on the Vision to get back to where you are now.
If it were me, stick with the XC and spend the $750 on a used trunk, that sounds like your biggest push. With the bags you have now you already have more storage then the Vision. Then, if you want the shiny, buy the shiny.
I've got a XCT because my wife didn't like the feel of the Vision and I like the extra storage.

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I would never trade a 2011 bike for a 2008 unless I was the one getting some cash out of it.
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