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post #1 of 44 (permalink) Old 05-01-2013, 08:55 PM Thread Starter
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How do you tell someone that they have been given bad/wrong/incorrect information?

I know that this isn't a Harley forum but tonight was the second time in two weeks that someone riding a new HD 103 has said that his bike was making 100 HP & 100 torque at the rear wheel! The first guy said that his salesman told him that but this second guy said that he had to look it up on the internet. For a minute there I felt like I was in an Allstate TV commercial

Most of us who know anything about engines knows that is VERY incorrect but how to you tell a guy that just bought his bike and is SO proud of it that he has been lied to by either sales people or the internet?

My only comment was that they might want to put it on a dyno to see if that is accurate. To my knowledge, most 103's put down less than 80HP to the rear tire when run on a Dyno. I wonder who is spewing mis-information on HD power ratings on the internet these days

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According to the World Wide Web, the 103 Harley motor gets close to 80 horse and 90 in the torque dept

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No win situation. I'd say "wow, impressive" and look for a way to change the subject.
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66hp 81 torque on
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100 torque is what Harley claims on their website for the 103 bikes, but that's definitely not rear wheel. The guy you spoke too was probably just uninformed between crank versus rear wheel numbers. Harley doesn't publish the HP numbers, probably because they are so low and would be kind of embarrassing.
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Hey, I am riding a HD 103 and no way is it putting out that kind of power. My Yamaha 1300 cc 4 cylinder was rated at 97 HP stock and put out way more power than the relatively sickly 103 I am riding, until my Vision comes in. I have a stage 1 air filter on mine and maybe it gave me 1 or 2 HP but no more. It did give me something far more important and that was a bit of space between that hot engine and my right leg. That stage 1 filter runs far cooler than the original filter did. I think you will find that HD only advertises about 75 HP on the stock 103, which is far better than the 68 they claimed on the older 96. I fully support that idea. My 2011 RGU 103 is far stronger than the 96 I had on my 2010 EGU.
Actually HD does publish their engine HP but it is not what we would consider very strong compared to the Vics. Go here for some sad but true numbers.

ndabunka, tell it like it is. Someone has been spinning lies to impress your friend. No way is a HD stock engine going to produce over 75 HP at the rear wheel.

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No need to correct him.......just ask him if he wants to race!!

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Buddy of mine has a 12' street glide 103 with dual pipes and new flash and was dynoed at about 80 hp 85 or so torque. Hes a huge Harley guy and tossed those papers asap. I smoke him every time were side by side, stock and after pipes. Those street glides are heavy but are a sweet looking ride.

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No need to correct him.......just ask him if he wants to race!!

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Yep. You want to make a little side money on a barroom pool table, look for the guy with his own stick.
You want to show nothing but taillight to some proud owner, look for the guy that quotes what a salesman told him and then verified it on the interwebs.

You do the poor SOB a favor pointing out the truth to him.

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You don't especially over time you get used to allot of Harley owners trying to compare dicks so to speak. Just nod smile and tell him or her that yeah they are nice bikes yada yada. Wait until the next time you see them and see if anything has changed. Allot of guys in the my club talked crapped the first time they saw my bike. However within a month or two everything changed. We rode and they researched and now it is nothing but compliments and questions.

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