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post #1 of 130 (permalink) Old 05-28-2013, 09:28 AM Thread Starter
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At work on Saturday night a few of us bike owners got into a conversation about helmet laws (No laws in Iowa) and about the pros and cons and who should wear them and who shouldnt have to. Anyways we agreed that it should be a riders choice whether you wear a helmet or not with exception for children and new motorcycle riders for the first year. Anyways one bike conversation led to another and one of the guys (Ducati rider) said, I think you shouldnt be able to even own a bike unless you have a certain IQ as to which another guy (Vulcan rider) replied, but that means Harley Davidson would lose over half it sales!! Well us who dont own Harleys immediately starting pissing ourselves laughing but what was even funnier was the HD owners reactions......Effin Pricks, F U, one got up and walked away...it was funnier than hell.....Didnt know Harley Owners were so sensitive.

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Fellas, what I'm about to say is a generalization brought on by many decades of exposure to the evolution the Harley rider "lifestyle," so don't climb down my throat and/or bombard me with the exceptions you know. OK?
Like most cult type groups, certain H-D riders tell themselves lies and they tell them so often that they eventually believe them to be truths. We all know what they think and say about helmets that have no basis in truth, but here's another one I won't forget...
During the filming for a PBS program about the biker lifestyle at a rural park I rode into, the producer asked me over to provide some outsider insight. When it was a wrap, the film crew told us to go down the road to a restaurant and they'd treat us to a meal there. It was a cold and drizzly day and as I was mounting my first gen Yamaha Venture, the 1%er next me admitted he'd really like to add a windshield to his bike for days like this, but his buddies told him that will destroy the handling. So Scot, what you experienced was hypersensitivity to a belief pattern that demands not only conformity but respect.

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After nearly 40 consecutive years in the motorcycle life riding all brands including lotsa HD's and seeing the Yuppie HD market movement come and go I am convinced that HD owners are more likely to be attracted to the "lifestyle" then actually riding the bike. Their take on HD is we get less and we are proud of being dumbed down. Can't confuse them with logic. Just check out as proof any Craigslist of the significant numbers of Low mileage HD's for sale.. YMMV.

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alot of truth in that Ricz. when one owns a certain brand of whatever. THEY want to believe they made the best choice for whatever reason and yes they will believe or lie to themselves even if they know they have an inferior product.

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Fellas, what I'm about to say is a generalization brought on by many decades of exposure to the evolution the Harley rider "lifestyle," so don't climb down my throat and/or bombard me with the exceptions you know. OK?
Like most cult type groups, certain H-D riders tell themselves lies and they tell them so often that they eventually believe them to be truths. We all know what they think and say about helmets that have no basis in truth, but here's another one I won't forget...
During the filming for a PBS program about the biker lifestyle at a rural park I rode into, the producer asked me over to provide some outsider insight. When it was a wrap, the film crew told us to go down the road to a restaurant and they'd treat us to a meal there. It was a cold and drizzly day and as I was mounting my first gen Yamaha Venture, the 1%er next me admitted he'd really like to add a windshield to his bike for days like this, but his buddies told him that will destroy the handling. So Scot, what you experienced was hypersensitivity to a belief pattern that demands not only conformity but respect.
I believe you Ricz, they Harley guys at work are all good guys we all get on great and often make fun of each other, shooting the shit as they say, but their reaction to a joke made about Harley was nutz, thats what made it so funny, it was just liked we had insulted their Moms *L*

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I also believe a lot of Harleys are bought through peer pressure and not always cause theyre making the best choice but the need to fit in. A young kid at my work rides a Suzuki sports bike but told me he's selling it to buy a Harley, I said why and his answer was cause all his buddies have them.

I also know a couple of guys at the Abate of Iowa who do teach the MSF and are Harley riders, theyre sick of the amount of people who go straight out and buy HD because they think people will look down their nose at them if they buy anything else.

Im also tired of hearing Harley riders saying to me (after looking at my bike) that they "nearly" bought a Victory.

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Being an old fart has its advantages and one of them is being able to be very honest to younger guys without fear of getting decked. Many are the times I have come out of a store I rode to and there will be a guy or two or three checking out my XR. At least one will be a Harley rider and usually admits to liking what Victory is doing. I tell him that our two local dealers have demo bikes and he should give one a try. I'll jokingly warn him that after that ride, he may not go back to liking his Harley. The response I usually get is (you guessed it) "My friends all ride Harleys and they'd laugh at me." To that I reply, "You appear to have left high school a long time ago but continue to allow peer pressure to run your life. So you'll ride what you know is a second rate bike just to please your friends." They'll look down and mutter something about me being right.

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"You appear to have left high school a long time ago but continue to allow peer pressure to run your life. So you'll ride what you know is a second rate bike just to please your friends." They'll look down and mutter something about me being right.
Thats very true but as im not an old fart yet Id probably end up in a few fisty cuffs If I said that *L* but it is a valid point

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"My friends all ride Harleys and they'd laugh at me." To that I reply, "You appear to have left high school a long time ago but continue to allow peer pressure to run your life. So you'll ride what you know is a second rate bike just to please your friends." They'll look down and mutter something about me being right.
The guy that bought my '06 Royal Star Venture was quite hesitant to make the deal because all his "buddies" rode Harleys ... but he loved the bike and we did the deal ... and I've seen him several times since and he's got no regrets and still rides with his Harley buddies. Apparently all are not ruled by peer pressure.
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Ricz, I couldn't have said it better. Probably woulda said it worse. Seems to me that finding a HD rider that truly just LIKES HIS BIKE for what it is is getting harder and harder. Lots of RUBs and wanna-bes out there subscribing to the lifestyle and drinkin the Kool-Aid. That was one of the reasons I didn't spend much time looking at Road Kings when I was bike shopping. I didn't want to be a part of it, and I didn't want people to think I was a part of it, from either perspective. Maybe a silly reason to shy away from a brand, but there's so much silliness revolving around the brand that mine seems pretty insignificant.

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