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Hey guys,

I've been thinking more and more about getting a Vic for a second bike. However, I read that the paint doesn't hold up and that they actually use a single stage base/clear on the paint instead of an actual clear.

Is that true? If so, it's almost a deal breaker for me. I can't imagine why they would when every other major manufacturer uses a 2 stage paint

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Hey guys,

I've been thinking more and more about getting a Vic for a second bike. However, I read that the paint doesn't hold up and that they actually use a single stage base/clear on the paint instead of an actual clear.

Is that true? If so, it's almost a deal breaker for me. I can't imagine why they would when every other major manufacturer uses a 2 stage paint

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Looking at the painted surfaces, I'm doubtful that it's a single stage.

That said though, there are a variety of clear coat products and some are just not as hard as others and of lesser quality.

There is an easy way to tell if it's clear coated. Take a piece of oh... 1200 or more wet-or-dry sandpaper and get it wet and do just a very little sanding on an inconspicuous location... if the residue is white or milky, then it's clearcoated. Of course, this might not help much on a white bike.

Afterwards you can polish the sanded area back to a shine.
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I got the info over on another well known Vic forum

Looks like they're all single stage except for the Ness bikes

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Looks like they're all single stage except for the Ness bikes
Regardless, single or 2 stage, if it's good paint, it will stand up and not be susceptible to marring so easily. I've painted numerous vehicles including motorcycles and not had issues such as are reported on the Vics.

I am going to be the guinea pig and check this out with the sandpaper. I'll get back atcha on it when I do.

In any event, any minor surface "marring" can be easily polished out. It's important to do a good wax job on a new bike / car, etc to provide that extra layer of protection.
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Looks like they're all single stage except for the Ness bikes
Yeah, I read that too. I keep hearing how crappy the Vic paint is but I ain't seeing it. My XC is 1 year old next month with 9772 miles on it. At home, it is parked under an awning roof off the side of my workshop without a cover on the bike itself. At work, it sits uncovered in the sun at the busiest heliport in the US. I have not done a thorough wax job on it yet and it still shines brite with no scratches showing. I wash it every 2-3 weeks with a bucket of soapy water, soft cloth, and a water hose. Oh, mine is Imperial Blue so it's not like its a real light color that won't show scratches.

Don't let a bunch of guys on the Internet break a deal for you. Check out the bikes for yourself. If there are Vic's in your AO, get with the owners and see how they are holding up. Single stage done right is just fine according to a painter I know. Yes, 2 stage is better, but according to this guy, you will really have to pay for real good 2 stage nowadays due to changes in paint mandated by the EPA. I don't know how accurate this info is. Just relaying what I was told by someone that "should" know.

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If it is a single stage I would be very surprised, looking at the models on the dealer floor I don't see anything that would leave be to believe they are single stage. I got a hardball and no issues with my matte black so far it will be a year old next month with 7k miles on her.

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Of course you can believe everything that's posted on a forum. Wanna buy a bridge? I have an overstock sale going on while they last.
Why would the paint be a problem? Are you gonna park it outside all the time? I've been on this forum since late '09 and can not remember a serious paint complaint.
Lastly, why pass up a bike you otherwise admire, just because of something someone said about the paint that more than likely is not true.

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I have painted quite a few inner fairings and chin spoilers using victorys paint directly from midwest coatings. ( They supply Victory their paint)

The paint is NOT single stage! It is a BC/CC just like 99% of all automotive finishes anymore. The reason some people are unhappy with the paint is due to the clear they use. It seems to be alittle softer then most clear and marks easily. From what i have seen though its mostly just the black model vic guys who are unhappy. Black shows EVERYTHING! I have painted plenty of vivid black harleys and let me tell you black is one tough color to keep scratch free.

Ness bikes use the same paint as the normal XC. The vic paint from midwest coating comes pre reduced and comes with a activator you mix it 8:1 and is a acrylic urethane paint. I use either House of Kolor UC35 clear or PPG Deltron DC 4010 to top coat it with. Both of these clears dry much harder then the stock clear so they seem much more scratch resistant then the stock clear.

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