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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 02-27-2011, 04:46 PM Thread Starter
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A friend mentioned this term when we were talking about the new High Ball, something that can happen when you have ape hangers for handlebars. Any truth to this?
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post #2 of 16 (permalink) Old 02-27-2011, 05:18 PM
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The higher the bar the less strength and leverage you have to controling the bike in a bad situation.
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Death wobble is/was a result of HD rubber mounted motors and the relation to the three axis of mounting and the pivot point of the swing arm... Do a google search on HD death wobble if you want to know more. They changed some stuff up in 08 to help with this.

In other words it is an HD issue not a Victory issue and has nothing to do with apes. If you are on an HD that gets into this situation the last thing you want is apes but it can happen with any style bar. Being fair to HD this only happens at real high rates of speed.

Bottom line - Victory does not have this issue.

Oh by the way - apes get a bad wrap by those that have not ridden with them. Yes you are not going to be doing the "ride like a pro" BMW course but they are not this big bad scary thing that so many fear. Honestly if you have a bad back, ape hangers are one of the BEST thing you can do to help with this. It forces you to set up straight. Now am I saying you need to have your fist over your head... NO but apes that come to your shoulders are about the most comfortable ride you can get.

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I have had wobbles as a result of about every thing from aero to tire inflation. That said my 76FL had apes, and it would run at 100 all day long[or until something important fell off.]
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[or until something important fell off.]
I know first hand about that I have lost stuff and have found buddies stuff at 90+

That chit hurts mang!

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Many bikes have been accused of having " death wobble". When I had my st1300 many posts asked if it was true many European police depts. stopped using these bikes due to wobble. It invariably turned out to be a tire issue. Had a Honda Sabre 1100 many years ago and got the wobble at about 85. Scared the hell out of me. Turned out I had not checked my tires in a while and the front only had 15 lbs. of air.
I can't use apes. Puts my left arm to sleep. But it is nice until the numbness sets in.
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Death wobble is a old term. I am use to hearing tank slapper. A lot of variables involved. Low tire pressure, inferior suppression, to wind shields and fairings.
I had it on my VTX when I first installed the fairing. Big trucks would cause it easy. It turned out I had not centered the fairing. It was off 1/8 inch. Once I got it level it stopped.

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I would agree that Ape hangers right about shoulder level are very comfy. I had them on my Vstar 1100 and loved them.
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It looks like im a little late chiming in here . A bunch of my buddies have harley road kings with 16 inch and up apes . and most of them get that front wheel wobble above 110 mph .
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Any bike can develop front end wobble, including Victory. Bad steering head bearings can cause it, poor road surface, worn tires and excessive speed. Death wobble is a just a term people came up with that didn't know any better to describe the loss of control from head shake.

I did a search btw and the main factor was speed above the posted limit in a turn and wobble in the turn. This is called riding beyond the handling of the motorcycle, or in laymen's terms being a moron.
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