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I'm pissed the marketing keeps saying "choice in American motorcycles is back". I bought a Victory as a choice over the other. WTF Polaris? you don't consider The Victory a choice? My next bike will be a Harley if you keep screwing around, at least they don't release competing models and put the refinements on the new one.


I was in Sturgis this year and had a chance to scope out the Indians. The very first thing I noticed was the handlebar controls - everything integrated into the housings as compared to the audio and cruise hanging off the bottom on a Vic. I cornered a Victory factory guy and voiced my many concerns about the controls, smoother transmission, larger engine, etc and the advertising. He listened and was somewhat sympathetic.

After the 700 mile trip I just did over the last couple of days Harley may have a convert coming their way. I said I never would, but the more I think about it the more i see no loyalty from Polaris, Victory, and Indian.

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I'm pissed the marketing keeps saying "choice in American motorcycles is back". I bought a Victory as a choice over the other. WTF Polaris?
I agree, that ad is pretty dismissive of their current customers.

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After the 700 mile trip I just did over the last couple of days Harley may have a convert coming their way. I said I never would, but the more I think about it the more i see no loyalty from Polaris, Victory, and Indian.
What went wrong? I like my bike just fine. Vic is doing things that aren't making me crazy about buying another, but I certainly enjoy riding the one I got.




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Vic is doing things that aren't making me crazy about buying another, but I certainly enjoy riding the one I got.
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I sure don't see a problem. If you actually see a Chieftain and a Cross Country side by side...you'll see there really is a choice to be made.

To be mad because a set of features is one product and not another is absurd. Maybe YOU are upset, many of us are happy with our bikes....and we don't NEED another choice.

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The better marketing strategy would be to have some Victories in the Indian commercials... yup.

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You say harley doesn't repeat. What rock do you live under.
The baggers have been the same since the 50's the softail has been the same since 1985 and Dyna has never changed.
Yes the motors have but thats it. This is the first year haley has made major changes to the bike.
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I'm pissed the marketing keeps saying "choice in American motorcycles is back". I bought a Victory as a choice over the other. WTF Polaris? you don't consider The Victory a choice? My next bike will be a Harley if you keep screwing around, at least they don't release competing models and put the refinements on the new one.


I was in Sturgis this year and had a chance to scope out the Indians. The very first thing I noticed was the handlebar controls - everything integrated into the housings as compared to the audio and cruise hanging off the bottom on a Vic. I cornered a Victory factory guy and voiced my many concerns about the controls, smoother transmission, larger engine, etc and the advertising. He listened and was somewhat sympathetic.

After the 700 mile trip I just did over the last couple of days Harley may have a convert coming their way. I said I never would, but the more I think about it the more i see no loyalty from Polaris, Victory, and Indian.
Your going to jump ship just because of an ad? I've not seen one Indian commercial on TV but see Victory commercials all the time. I'm not going to cry because there are now three choices and Polaris is two of them?????? I've got nothing against Hardly either.. I bought what I liked and thought was the best bike for what I needed a bike for.
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It doesn't take much to piss off our friend Truckracer, does it. The example he gave for getting upset is baseless. Those added on controls on the Vics are there cuz there are many Vics that don't need them, while others do. Most Indians have the same controls which makes it a no brainer for them to have the same switchgear. I know the Chieftain has audio stuff, but consider the price of Indians vs Victorys. Wanna pay that much for integrated controls? I don't.

According to Vic brass, there are huge changes acoming 'round the bend. You go ahead and get your wonderful Harley...betcha you'll be trading it in shortly for one of those new and improved Victorys.

Oh, and Polaris did give us a choice with the Victory...contemporary design and engineering, great handling and performance and unique styling for those who are weary of the H-D costume party. Now they have given us another choice, one that differs from our Victorys and appeals to traditionalists and many others. I don't see this as Polaris dismissing us Vic owners, rather they are augmenting their line with a bike that appeals to a somewhat different clientele. However, when I hit it big (or medium) in the lottery, there will be an Indian next to my XR in the sixteen car garage.

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I sure don't see a problem. If you actually see a Chieftain and a Cross Country side by side...you'll see there really is a choice to be made.

To be mad because a set of features is one product and not another is absurd. Maybe YOU are upset, many of us are happy with our bikes....and we don't NEED another choice.
If I saw them side by side?? I had my 2013 CCT right next to a Chieftain.
It's obvious lessons learned from Victory have been applied to the Indians. It's also obvious those lessons are not going to be applied to the Victory's anytime soon.
I got caught in a small rain shower and the audio controls went nuts, and just like my gas smell I had, I search the forums and sure enough it's a common, reoccurring problem. Nothing has changed on the assembly process or parts to alleviate known conditions, but they had time to build a new line of bikes...
I am happy with the bike, just not the fact it needs tweaks to fix stuff and the company building Victory's are promoting the newest lineup as the only alternative to Milwaukee.

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I bought my Vic because it was the best value for my dollar. Not because of a marketing campaign. There is no perfect bike coming from any manufacturer. If you don't like how something is, just change it. If it has so many things that need changing well maybe you should go buy the Harley.

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