Using clutch to control speed - Victory Forums - Victory Motorcycle Forum
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
post #1 of 50 (permalink) Old 09-24-2013, 12:11 PM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 129
Default Using clutch to control speed

I have too much time to think when I ride and now I have a theory I need help with...

I know using the clutch to control speed is a good way to ... control speed. If my RPMs are too low for the gear I'm in, I get a transmission shudder that, IMHO, is adding unnecessary wear on the transmission and lugging the engine...

If I'm pulling in the clutch a little and keeping the RPMs high to keep the tranny from shuddering, is that better than fully releasing the clutch and letting the tranny shudder? Theoretically, I would be putting more stress on the clutch when partially pulling it in, which would eventually burn it out, right? On the other hand, I would be adding unnecessary wear on the tranny and engine, causing a potentially more costly problem down the road.

What are your thoughts?

2013 Hammer 8-Ball
Flame Bandit Seat
RPW Thor Exhaust
S&S Intake
PCV with Autotune
2" Control Extension
MBW LED Turn Signals
Side Mount License Plate
Infidel is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 50 (permalink) Old 09-24-2013, 12:21 PM
Senior Member
 
RICZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Portland,Oregon
Posts: 12,122
Default

Thou shalt not lug thy engine. If thine engine is shuddering, thou should hadst dropped down a gear or thrice gears. Keepeth thine rpms above 2200 and thine engine will be happier and last longer, like Methuselah. Yea verily, using thy friction zone is reserved for tight maneuvers in first gear. Many plagues will befall thee and thine engine because of shuddering.

2010 Midnight Cherry XR. 7Jurock, Lloydz AF, ATS, AFR tuned VFCIII, IAV, and T-6 and locally repacked pipes = big smiles. SOLD to a dear friend, so it's still in the family."
2017 Spyder F3 Limited - keeps this old guy in the wind and riding with friends.
Cure that ugly stand up license plate with the cheapest and best laydown bracket. Click this:
https://www.victoryforums.com/11-ven...t-x-bikes.html

Last edited by RICZ; 09-24-2013 at 12:26 PM.
RICZ is offline  
post #3 of 50 (permalink) Old 09-24-2013, 12:32 PM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 129
Default

Clear enough. Thanks for the feedback

2013 Hammer 8-Ball
Flame Bandit Seat
RPW Thor Exhaust
S&S Intake
PCV with Autotune
2" Control Extension
MBW LED Turn Signals
Side Mount License Plate
Infidel is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 50 (permalink) Old 09-24-2013, 12:33 PM
GCM
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Ct
Posts: 75
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RICZ View Post
Thou shalt not lug thy engine. If thine engine is shuddering, thou should hadst dropped down a gear or thrice gears. Keepeth thine rpms above 2200 and thine engine will be happier and last longer, like Methuselah. Yea verily, using thy friction zone is reserved for tight maneuvers in first gear. Many plagues will befall thee and thine engine because of shuddering.
Old English aside, I agree, however, lets say you are in 1st gear sputtering along in stop-en-go traffic that is not quite stopped or going to steady. Keeping the RPMs about 2200 ain't so easy so it seems like "clutching-it" is the answer...but maybe I'm using a bad technique...

GCM
Central Ct.
2012 Hammer S
GCM is offline  
post #5 of 50 (permalink) Old 09-24-2013, 12:38 PM
Lifetime Premium
 
LILMAGS500's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Peoples Republic of Massachusetts
Posts: 9,684
Garage
Default

Your clutch should be "IN" or "OUT" , to avoid causing any wear to your components. The quicker your clutch goes from in to out in a controlled manner , is the key to clutch longevity. When shuddering, or lugging , shift to a lower gear. I often wait , in stop and go traffic , until the car in front of me is far enough ahead to fully release my clutch and go before having to pull it back in... Avoiding "slipping" the clutch .

2014 Cross Country
2014 XC , Lloyds A/F , Timing Wheel +4 , PCV , Miller Mufflers , 1/4 Turn Throttle Ring , Dyno Tuned by KMC Powersports 98HP 113 TQ

Last edited by LILMAGS500; 09-24-2013 at 12:41 PM. Reason: more info
LILMAGS500 is offline  
post #6 of 50 (permalink) Old 09-24-2013, 12:41 PM
GCM
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Ct
Posts: 75
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LILMAGS500 View Post
Your clutch should be "IN" or "OUT" , to avoid causing any wear to your components. The quicker your clutch goes from in to out in a controlled manner , is the key to clutch longevity. When shuddering, or lugging , shift to a lower gear.
Not sure about your bike but mine doesn't have a gear lower than 1st...My example was VERY specific to 1st gear and stop-en-go traffic/riding conditions...otherwise I agree 100% with the "IN" or "OUT" approach.

GCM
Central Ct.
2012 Hammer S
GCM is offline  
post #7 of 50 (permalink) Old 09-24-2013, 12:44 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Mule Town, L.A. (Lower AL)
Posts: 450
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GCM View Post
Old English aside, I agree, however, lets say you are in 1st gear sputtering along in stop-en-go traffic that is not quite stopped or going to steady. Keeping the RPMs about 2200 ain't so easy so it seems like "clutching-it" is the answer...but maybe I'm using a bad technique...
That would be the "Friction Zone"he referred to using for slow speed maneuvering in first gear. You seem to have the right idea, just different terminology.

Riding a 2012 Imperial Blue Cross Country
Creek_IP is offline  
post #8 of 50 (permalink) Old 09-24-2013, 12:44 PM
Lifetime Premium
 
LILMAGS500's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Peoples Republic of Massachusetts
Posts: 9,684
Garage
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GCM View Post
Not sure about your bike but mine doesn't have a gear lower than 1st...My example was VERY specific to 1st gear and stop-en-go traffic/riding conditions...otherwise I agree 100% with the "IN" or "OUT" approach.
You missed my revision , check it out .

2014 Cross Country
2014 XC , Lloyds A/F , Timing Wheel +4 , PCV , Miller Mufflers , 1/4 Turn Throttle Ring , Dyno Tuned by KMC Powersports 98HP 113 TQ
LILMAGS500 is offline  
post #9 of 50 (permalink) Old 09-24-2013, 12:51 PM
Senior Member
 
RICZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Portland,Oregon
Posts: 12,122
Default

Check these out....short, sweet, informative;
http://www.youtube.com/user/CaptCrashIdaho/videos

2010 Midnight Cherry XR. 7Jurock, Lloydz AF, ATS, AFR tuned VFCIII, IAV, and T-6 and locally repacked pipes = big smiles. SOLD to a dear friend, so it's still in the family."
2017 Spyder F3 Limited - keeps this old guy in the wind and riding with friends.
Cure that ugly stand up license plate with the cheapest and best laydown bracket. Click this:
https://www.victoryforums.com/11-ven...t-x-bikes.html
RICZ is offline  
post #10 of 50 (permalink) Old 09-24-2013, 12:57 PM
Senior Member
 
L0st's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: zaragoza,Spain
Posts: 158
Garage
Default

I also city ride am I'm sure of one thing. We are going to have a pop-eye left forearm!

I find myself pulling the damn clutch all the time. eeeerrrrrrrrr.

2012 Hammer 8-Ball
Highball Apes.
Skeleton hand mirrors.
Tank De-badged.
Victory Bandit seat (So much better rider & passenger)
Leather lever covers.
Standard driver foot control for vegas. (2" foward)
Quick release 12" Back rest. (TOMAHAWK chopper style)
K&N Air Filter
Metzeler 260/40x18 & 130/70x18
Handmade leather side bag.
More to come...........
L0st is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Victory Forums - Victory Motorcycle Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools Search this Thread
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome