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Post pics of your custom cheese wedge treatments and what you did... covers, paint, etc. Let's see 'em!

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I have a set of cheese wedges from witchdoctors but I am very disappointed in them.

The mounting system was very poorly thought out. If you decide on his cheese wedges here is what you will need to do to mount them and none of this is covered in their misleading video that even they had problems with the bottom nut in the video and you can tell he fakes it being tight.

Now on to what you will have to do to properly install them.

Left side:

This is the easier of the two.

1. Figure out how much of the studs they provide you will need to stick out the back side so the supplied washer and nyloc nut will have enough thread to attach to. If you screw the supplied studs all the way into the cheese wedge mounting points you will not have enough thread left for the nylon in the nyloc nuts to screw onto. Once you know how long the stud needs to be you will need to mark the stud with a piece of masking tape so you will know how far to screw the stud back in once you put RED LOCTITE on the studs. Let the RED LOCTITE set up for a while so the nyloc nuts do not screw the studs down into the cheese wedge.

2. Once the RED LOCTITE is set up you may now install the left cheese wedge. It will help if you have a short 10mm wrench or a 1/4 inch drive short ratchet, 10mm socket and a short 1/4 wobble extension. I found the short 10mm wrench worked best. place the three washers on the studs and start the three nyloc nuts. Now using the 10mm wrench tighten the three nuts. Do not use LOCTITE on these three nuts as LOCTITE can damage some plastics and nylon.

Right side:

This side is a pain in the rear end to install. You cannot reach the three studs to put the washers and nuts on them. You will need to do one of two things. 1. Remove the fuel tank to get access to the studs and nuts or 2. Remove the bracket that holds the cheese wedge and the solenoid with a harness that plugs in on the cheese wedge side.

I removed the bracket. If you decide to remove the bracket you will need a set of long ball head metric socket bits or a long set of ball head metric allen wrenches. The socket bits will work best to break the bolts loose. If you have to use metric allen wrenches you will need to use a small pair of pliers on the short portion of the allen wrench to get enough leverage to break the bolts loose. Be very careful when doing this because if you are not you could break off the round allen head in the head of the bolt. Just take your time on this part and you will be ok.

1. Remove the bolts in the bracket and let it hang down that will give you enough clearance to install the cheese wedge washers and nyloc nuts. Like the left side you need to figure out how long the studs need to be. You will also need to shim the right cheese wedge out away from the solenoid and the plugin wiring harness. Once you determine how long the studs need to be you again will use masking tape and RED LOCTITE to set the studs at the right length. Let the RED LOCTITE set up for a while.

2. Once the RED LOCTITE has set place your shims on each stud on the cheese wedge and place the cheese wedge on the bracket. Now put the three washers on the studs that are sticking through the bracket followed by the three nyloc nuts. Tighten all three nuts with your short 10mm wrench.

3. Now line up the bracket with its mounting holes and reinstall the bracket with the factory bolts using a drop of BLUE LOCTITE on each of the four factory bolts. Again using a metric bit socket will work best but if you have to use a long allen wrench use a small pair of pliers on the short end to gently tighten the bolts.

If you do not shim the right side cheese wedge you risk damaging the plastic plug or even pinching the wires to the solenoid if the wires end up against the cheese wedge.

None of this is in the witchdoctor video.

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What is here we go again? He wanted to know about cheese wedges so I gave him what needs to be done if he decided to buy from that vendor. I guess you would just sit quietly by and let the buyer purchase the product than find out after the fact what it really takes to install them. With friends like you the Victory community does not need any enemies.
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I apologize , Vic1 . I figured you were using this thread to shred WD yet again . With customers like you , small business don't need any enemies ! Yuk Yuk Yuk Yo YO !!!

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I apologize , Vic1 . I figured you were using this thread to shred WD yet again . With customers like you , small business don't need any enemies ! Yuk Yuk Yuk Yo YO !!!
All depends on how they treat you and if they have a quality product or a poor quality product priced out at the top end.

Word of mouth can make you and word of mouth can just as quickly break you.

As for me I could care less about a phone call after I ordered my parts, what I want is high quality products that perform as advertised. That after sale phone call means nothing to me and in reality is nothing but a gimmick.
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Post pics of your custom cheese wedge treatments and what you did... covers, paint, etc. Let's see 'em!

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All depends on how they treat you and if they have a quality product or a poor quality product priced out at the top end.

Word of mouth can make you and word of mouth can just as quickly break you.

As for me I could care less about a phone call after I ordered my parts, what I want is high quality products that perform as advertised. That after sale phone call means nothing to me and in reality is nothing but a gimmick.
I disagree with the followup call being a gimmick, I own my own tax business and as a matter of fact I personally call all 3000+ of my company's clients after tax season to ask several questions such as:
1) was their wait time excessive?
2) was their preparer professional yet personable?
3) were they overall happy with our service and is there anything we could do to improve our service
Etc...

Yeah, it's a lot of work but to me it's worth it to let my clients know I care. Personally I believe WD is the same way in that they do care and they'll do what it takes to make a client happy. You had a bad experience but maybe it was bad because you chose to rape them on this forum rather than give them a chance to make you happy.


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Lets see what you made not just BOSS. That you bought. These were not as much trouble as that.

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I appreciate the time and effort Vic1 took to thoroughly explain the process. I didn't perceive it as bashing. I haven't been to WD's site to check out the wedge covers yet, but if they're advertised as a simple bolt-on and Vic1's process is accurate, then that goes beyond the realm of a simple bolt-on, at least to me. It would be more of an aggravation than it's worth to me.

Unfortunately, a lot of my experience with aftermarket parts is that they lack that last 10% in terms of quality and fit. Not to say that WD is that way, but it's a common denominator in the industry.

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