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Here is an update on my. Michelin Commander II tires....

At almost 4000 miles they show no sign of wear, nothing, no flat spot from running almost all highway....

I never had a tire that didn't start to show that tell tale flat spot in the centre of the tire from so much highway running.

There is some bad news though..........
There is a hum that comes from the front tire when running straight at aprox 30-35 mph. The hum or buzz comes right threw the bars. It's not bad but gets your att.

Also I find the bike (twitchy) as if it wants to go into a speed wobble if you hit a small bump while leaned over at speeds above 60mph.
It will shake its head and really get your attention on a sweeper at speed. Really dislike this. Feels very unstable. The E3s didn't do this at all ever. Even when I pounded the bike over big bumps while at high speed in tight turns... The E3s were very stable.......

Also I was out in the rain and while merging onto the highway the rear broke loose and spun....... Caught me off guard. So I have to say I don't trust them in the rain.....

Not sure if I will buy these again. They really killed the great handling the XCT Had...............


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Appreciate your input .. The Com II's are without question the best tires ever had on my FXR4 and I have tried them all .. Perhaps the style and/or weight of the Cross Bikes makes a difference ..

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Appreciate your input .. The Com II's are without question the best tires ever had on my FXR4 and I have tried them all .. Perhaps the style and/or weight of the Cross Bikes makes a difference ..
They are bias ply versus the radials spec'd for the bikes so experimental deviations should be expected, though a couple of the spoked Cross bikes do use a bias ply front tire.

I got some Bridgestone Radials I'm getting anxious to test out, but not sure I'm gonna get to serious with them until next spring. Cold and sandy roads aren't great test beds...




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They are bias ply versus the radials spec'd for the bikes so experimental deviations should be expected, though a couple of the spoked Cross bikes do use a bias ply front tire.

I got some Bridgestone Radials I'm getting anxious to test out, but not sure I'm gonna get to serious with them until next spring. Cold and sandy roads aren't great test beds...
Be curious to hear how you do presently have Avon Cobras on my XC and so far (6K) are outshining the OEM Dunlops ..

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I knew there would be a difference between the radials and the bias but I didn't expect the bike to shake its head in the corners on un-even pavement.


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I have a cobra on the rear of mine and stock dunlop on the front, in the rain i have to be careful because the rear sticks and pushes the front around.

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I have a cobra on the rear of mine and stock dunlop on the front, in the rain i have to be careful because the rear sticks and pushes the front around.

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That would be a lot spookier than the back. Having the front wash out is not good....


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Here is an update on my. Michelin Commander II tires....

At almost 4000 miles they show no sign of wear, nothing, no flat spot from running almost all highway....

I never had a tire that didn't start to show that tell tale flat spot in the centre of the tire from so much highway running.

There is some bad news though..........
There is a hum that comes from the front tire when running straight at aprox 30-35 mph. The hum or buzz comes right threw the bars. It's not bad but gets your att.

Also I find the bike (twitchy) as if it wants to go into a speed wobble if you hit a small bump while leaned over at speeds above 60mph.
It will shake its head and really get your attention on a sweeper at speed. Really dislike this. Feels very unstable. The E3s didn't do this at all ever. Even when I pounded the bike over big bumps while at high speed in tight turns... The E3s were very stable.......

Also I was out in the rain and while merging onto the highway the rear broke loose and spun....... Caught me off guard. So I have to say I don't trust them in the rain.....

Not sure if I will buy these again. They really killed the great handling the XCT Had...............
I am on my 2nd set of Commander II's on the Vision and haven't seen any of the problems you talk about. Is the air pressure in your shock set correctly? Maybe it is a little too soft.

Breaking the rear tire loose in the rain happens on both the E3 and the Commander tires. I think this is simply a case of less throttle in this circumstance.

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I am on my 2nd set of Commander II's on the Vision and haven't seen any of the problems you talk about. Is the air pressure in your shock set correctly? Maybe it is a little too soft.

Breaking the rear tire loose in the rain happens on both the E3 and the Commander tires. I think this is simply a case of less throttle in this circumstance.
Shock s same as always.
You may not be as aggressive in the turns as I am.


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I wonder about tire pressure also but I would think a little lower pressure would help what you describe because it would increase tire contact patch a little. My XC developed a tendency to speed wobble also at 70+ when I removed the E3's but since I put a Klockwerks flip windshield on it, it's steady rock way past 80 now. My bike will never see E3's again (hate them) as long as I own it so I'm glad I discovered that.
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