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Evening all. I've been in the market for a new cruiser, as I've stated on this forum before. Obviously it's come down between harley and victory.

I've gotten past my fear of the lack of dealerships, as they don't seem to need them as much as harley, for the most part. However, a new concern has come about. Will these bikes continue to be supported for the foreseeable future?

There has been a lot of talk that with the resurrection of Indian, Polaris is gonna either scale back, or phase out Victory as their lead brand. Being a current Buell owner, this scares the hell outta me. The last thing I want to deal with is having two bikes in my garage with no support, parts, resale, or possibility of future brand growth.

How much of this is "the sky is falling" and how much is factual possibility? I just don't want to shell out the cash for a pricey bike only to end up hosed again.
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Having Indian to go after the nostalgia/tradition market frees up Victory to stop chasing Harley Davidson's tail and build some innovative machinery. They might build bikes that set the cruiser world on its ear. Recently, they have been trying to sell spoke wheels and apehangers, maybe the Indian brand will take that and Vic can go back to making killer bikes.

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That would be great, but I was looking at a high ball... Haha!
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Victory shifts models around. They create new models and retire old ones as the market shifts around but I don't think they are going anywhere soon.

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Evening all. I've been in the market for a new cruiser, as I've stated on this forum before. Obviously it's come down between harley and victory.

I've gotten past my fear of the lack of dealerships, as they don't seem to need them as much as harley, for the most part. However, a new concern has come about. Will these bikes continue to be supported for the foreseeable future?
When all the hulabaloo about Indians first surfaced, I was worried for the continuation of our brand. After I rode one and discovered the lack of ammenities for touring folks, I'm pretty sure the Vic brand will be just fine.




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That would be great, but I was looking at a high ball... Haha!
To each his own...

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Evening all. I've been in the market for a new cruiser, as I've stated on this forum before. Obviously it's come down between harley and victory.

I've gotten past my fear of the lack of dealerships, as they don't seem to need them as much as harley, for the most part. However, a new concern has come about. Will these bikes continue to be supported for the foreseeable future?

There has been a lot of talk that with the resurrection of Indian, Polaris is gonna either scale back, or phase out Victory as their lead brand. Being a current Buell owner, this scares the hell outta me. The last thing I want to deal with is having two bikes in my garage with no support, parts, resale, or possibility of future brand growth.

How much of this is "the sky is falling" and how much is factual possibility? I just don't want to shell out the cash for a pricey bike only to end up hosed again.
There is a video interview on the web asking this very question by one of the motorcycle rags..
The answer was that Victory would build bikes leaning toward the younger crowd.

There not going anywhere.
Most young riders are not interested in Indian.
The potential for Victory will be bigger now that Indian is in the picture.
As HC said. They will stop chasing Harley.
Part of the interview said it was time Victory had a new (I think driveline) motor tranny maybe .........

Vic and Indian will have completely different customers. There will be no competing between the two.


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There is a video interview on the web asking this very question by one of the motorcycle rags..
The answer was that Victory would build bikes leaning toward the younger crowd.

As HC said. They will stop chasing Harley.
I think the above is somewhat contradictory. Young folks seem to like the steel frame cruisers with unaturally positioned controls and have bodies that can be deformed for periods of time without suffering permanent damage from it. If that's there gig, then they will still be chasing potential customers of Wide Glides and Fatbobs.

If Indian takes over sporty cruisers, they will have to cheapen them up functionally and cosmetically to fall within younger buyer's budgets.

And if Victory kills their old man touring models, I predict a loss of customers as Indian is not a suitable replacement by a long shot.

If I had to make a prediction, I'd say we'll continue to see a new steel framed cruiser with some new combination of beach bars/ape hangers/drag bars and highway pegs/midmounts that emulate some Harley model or other for some time to come. And I'll bet that they'll rest on their laruels with new paint for the touring bikes year after year.

I get the impression that the Polaris execs looked at Harley sales and saw Street Glides sold a ton, hence we get a Chiefton to sell to older guys to ride around town with their friends on sunny weekends. I'd be more inclinded to side with NDABUNKA. Whatever Indian makes next will likely be targeted to people who desire a shiny garage toy to show off to their golfing buddies.




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That would be great, but I was looking at a high ball... Haha!
So buy a highball. As far as I can tell, the difference in the highball and the other steel frame bikes is the bars, fenders, paint, and whitewall tires. So unless they scrap the entire steel frame line, you'll still have parts available.

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So buy a highball. As far as I can tell, the difference in the highball and the other steel frame bikes is the bars, fenders, paint, and whitewall tires. So unless they scrap the entire steel frame line, you'll still have parts available.
I wasn't trying to sound snippy. I just don't quite understand why so many people put faith in what consumers say about the future of a brand. I choose to believe Meneto when he says Victory isn't going away. That's all it is, a choice of what to believe since none of us have a crystal ball. Victory is growing in a market that is different than HDs. It makes sense to keep the line alive. Indian is certainly going after a piece of the HD market. I don't think Indian will hurt HD any time soon but HD will be smart to pay attention.

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