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Why does every Harley owner think Polaris is owned by Honda? I can't seem to get away from this topic and it's starting to make me angry. I can't find any relation between Honda and Polaris, but I don't want to make an ass out of myself arguing.
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probably because the Honda Dealers sell Polaris ATV's and Victory

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90% of Harley riders think that Harley and Honda are the only two bike manufacturers of motorcycles. They spend so much time between fixing their bike, picking up their parts off side of the road, and looking for other Harley riders to ride with so that they are not stranded too long on side of the road, to even notice that there's life after Harley.

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What???? Polaris is not owned by Honda???

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Why does every Harley owner think Polaris is owned by Honda? I can't seem to get away from this topic and it's starting to make me angry. I can't find any relation between Honda and Polaris, but I don't want to make an ass out of myself arguing.
this is the first time i am hearing of it honestly but we have a victory/royal enfield dealer, a victory/triumph dealer, and 2 mall style places that have over 10 brands each that include victory

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I've heard of the Polaris- Bombardier comparison , but not the Honda comparison....

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On my Search for an Alternative to 40 years of HD with primarily Victory in mind. Did go to a few Powersports places whose Principal Make was Honda. One was so bad about pushing the FSB6 at me just left after telling him twice I was there to check out Victory Models.. Ended up buying at my closest Dealer which is Polaris based. Although while on this topic also checked out another Dealer close that has a BMW/Victory Franchise..

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They don't, it is just their way of trying to make themselves feel better for buying their over priced Harleys.

My local Harley dealer marks up every Harley on their sales floor from $2,000 to $8,000 over and above the manufacture suggested retail price.

The Harley dealer I am talking about is owned by Scott Fischer. He owns I think it is six Harley dealers from Florida to Arizona to I think North Carolina.

This is a man who has no problem bending you over and sticking it to you. Just how bad is he? You can order items on the Harley Davidson web site for less money than you can buy the same product from one of his Harley dealerships. I am not talking about tax vs no tax, I am talking about if the Harley catalogue says such and such costs 68.99 he will turn around and charge you 70.99. Two dollars here and two dollars there adds up over the course of a year.

The following is from an older article about Scott Fischer and his dealers but the very end tells the whole story on how he does business:

The Harley-Davidson of Fort Myers store earned $2,934,792 in gross profits from January to June, compared to $2,632,062 for the same period a year ago , according to the newspaper. The Naples location also grew gross profits 7 percent, taking in $1,579,647 from January to June, compared to $1,471,150 for the same period a year ago.

Although profits are on the rise, gross revenue has either remained steady or dropped.

The Fort Myers dealership saw sales rise 2 percent to about $10 million for the first half of the year, compared to about $9.8 million for the same period a year ago.

The Naples dealership saw gross revenue drop 13 percent to about $5.5 million from January to June, compared to $6.3 million the year before.

"With revenues down, we have had to put a bigger focus on margins," said COO Glo Cuiffi says.

How is that for a dealer?

Any discounts they give are meaningless as you will still be paying over MSRP in one of his stores.

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never had the Honda comparison but I've had the "You know Victory is made in Canada right?" People are not always smart.

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