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So what is it?

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So what is it?

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From a engineering aspect, I was always wandered why they put the motor in sideways, This design makes it better for exhaust flow and free's up space.

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From a engineering aspect, I was always wandered why they put the motor in sideways, This design makes it better for exhaust flow and free's up space.
One of the smoothest and best running bikes I ever had was a Valkyrie. The problem was the wide engine-- 6 cyl pancake. With my 6'1" frame and 32 inch inseam, there was no comfortable place to put my feet. The pancake engine was too darn wide. The standard pegs had them under my butt and with hiway bars I was always riding like I was about to give birth--OK for a while, but it gets old. It was also top heavy.

That is why I love the V twin--you can make the feet go back and froward as far as you like.
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Looks like they've taken the motor out of the ST1300, which is a fast sport tourer, and put it in the body of the CTX.

Pretty interesting article.

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From a engineering aspect, I was always wandered why they put the motor in sideways, This design makes it better for exhaust flow and free's up space.
They are fun to play with a stoplights. Flywheel is 90 to ours and when you rev the engine the counter torque developed makes the bike tilt. You'd never notice the effect on the road, but sitting still it's quite evident.

Problem I see with big, powerful engines is heat directly before a rider's knees. I rode a CX500 with a Guzzi layed out engine for years and heat was never an issue with it, but as time goes by and engines get bigger, more powerful, and run leaner, I'd really want to try such a bike before buying.




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I had a GoldWing 1800 and that thing was great at routing the heat away from the rider. It was water cooled and the radiator fans blew out the front when doing less than 15 MPH to keep the heat off the rider.

It too had a very wide engine and had limited places to put feet without getting creative.



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From a engineering aspect, I was always wandered why they put the motor in sideways, This design makes it better for exhaust flow and free's up space.
There is less power loss due to rotational direction change (I think I said that right). The crank shaft, fly wheel, and drive shaft all turn the same direction, therefor reducing power loss.

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Honda has stalled over the past few years and this is probably a good move for them. Their ideas and marketing has been seriously lacking for a number of years with only a couple of short trips into the large bike markets they were totally unfamiliar with. Rune and VTX1800 sales never lived up to expectations but I think they were misdirected to start with.

World wide sales of bikes is moving away from the huge bikes of recent popularity in NA. It was primarily in marketing and TV circles anyway. Sales figures still didn't come close to smaller sized bikes on the world stage. As of late, KTM and BMW are seeing sales of their bikes increase while others drop.

Coming from Honda will mean everything on it will fit and perform very well for a long time and riders for this market should like the bike. Over the years my wish for a perfect bike for them to build was a V100 Magna. Can you imagine? Probably just too much for the average human to handle.
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There is less power loss due to rotational direction change (I think I said that right). The crank shaft, fly wheel, and drive shaft all turn the same direction, therefor reducing power loss.
I was told by a Honda salesman that a shaft drive will loose as much as 15% power and torque over a belt or chain drive because of the directional change in the gears.

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