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post #1 of 58 (permalink) Old 10-27-2013, 09:00 AM Thread Starter
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That , is thee question ! I Blip , I Rev match , Whack the Throttle , down shift , my bike has never stalled ... Not when new , not when modified , Not Ever . I feel not at least Rev matching on downshifting is a general lack of riding knowledge , why are so many guys having this stalling issue?

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post #2 of 58 (permalink) Old 10-27-2013, 09:46 AM
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heh ... I started a thread on another forum about the exact same thing .... what a can of worms that opened up!

The stalling or engine cutout (so some say) has to do with the bikes computer thinking the engine is going into a "run away" mode so it kills the fuel delivery. For some reason, this doesn't happen at speed or when in the higher gears ... mostly when downshifting either to 2nd or 1st. It did it on mine when it was new and even occasionally now (if I blip it going down to 2nd or 1st) so, I generally don't do that. I just let the bike either idle down on it's own while coming to a stop or just slowing down or I drop the gear once the rpms are low enuf or sometimes even coast with the clutch in and shift down without releasing the clutch until I'm going slow enuf.

I remember asking the dealer about this when the bike was new and he said "it should stop doing that on it's own once you get a few more miles on it and it's broken in".

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No problems here either with blipin the go stick. I use the motor torque instead of the brakes when going in to a twisty section and let her rev. The Vision handles as good as my previous M109R and I don't have to coax her as much to dive into the apex and then transit to the next turn in the opposite direction. Shes a big girl but you wouldn't know it by her manners. Blip on and enjoy and the bike will learn your traits...

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The ECU doesn't think... not ever... it does what it is programmed to do.

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Ok so I conducted a 3 hr experiment on Thursday... Rev matching below 2200 rpm is a no go on my 13 Highball... It stumbles and stutters a bit. Trying to do it below 2000 rpm and the bike flat out dies. Prior to this experiment I had never tried blipping the throttle to downshift in that low rpm range. I ride my bike at 3000rpm and shift at 4000rpm. Anybody else wanna give this a try and see what they find? Highball has Bassani pro street turnouts and PCV, k&n filter, other than that motor is stock.


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IAV causes the popping and I think the stalling when we blip the throttle.
For me it tuck 100 miles to learn how to blip the throttle with no staling.
But I had ridden h-d's for ever and they don't have a IAV

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That , is thee question ! I Blip , I Rev match , Whack the Throttle , down shift , my bike has never stalled ... Not when new , not when modified , Not Ever . I feel not at least Rev matching on downshifting is a general lack of riding knowledge , why are so many guys having this stalling issue?
That there is pretty funny.

There is a difference between "blipping" and a steady, slight increase in RPM to downshift. Neither is needed, unless you downshift at higher speeds, If you wanta do the looky, I gots me a motor sicle and want attention thing, that's fine. Oh and BTW, I really don't want to hear your pipes. Just saying.
Just be ready for the near brain dead ECM to revolt. Some have it some don't some stick with it long enough for the ECM to learn what it is, or they back off of it until it stops dieing, and say they have no problem.

As for lack of riding knowledge, well I ride with some pretty salty riders. None of us are "bikers" but seem to get down the road without drama. FWIW

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I would recommend rev matching unless you like having the rear tire lock up at an inopportune moment...

That being said, "blipping", while in neutral just for noise should never cause the bike to stall out. I don't personally do it but, to each their own.

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I would recommend rev matching unless you like having the rear tire lock up at an inopportune moment...
Righto! if you're running at higher speeds / revvs and you let the engine drop down to almost idle between your shift (holding the clutch in too long) and then popping it ... ya, it could do that..... but who does that??? (an inexperienced rider maybe)

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The stalling usually occurs if throttle is blipped while the motor is idling around 1000 RPM. If you're riding, and blipping to give a 2000ish RPM a jump to 2500-3000ish, the bilp is fine.

But if you blip while waiting at stop lights, and the bike coughs or shuts off, that's a slightly different blipping story.

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