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Smaller than expected, water cooled, and made in India. Will wonders ever cease?
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Looks like a Yamaha / Star Bolt copy.... Once again, a wannabe copy by the motor company.....
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Smaller than expected, water cooled, and made in India.
For chicks I bet it beats taking the bus over there.

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Another bike with the Revolution engine. Roughly half the size of the V Rod motor. It could be interesting to ride. I don't know how it will be accepted though. It's going to need to be revved a lot more than traditional TC Air Cooled or even the current V Rod to get power.

Honestly, I think it is a good idea. It seems to me that the MC is trying to slowly integrate a "new" and technology into the mainstream.

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Not even sure why they make a 500 if read the specs the frames and most else are the same for the 500 and 750 except Engine Displacement .. But we will see .. But they had good luck with the 883 and 1200 on the same bike with 90% wishing had gone with 1200 to start ..

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Not even sure why they make a 500 if read the specs the frames and most else are the same for the 500 and 750 except Engine Displacement .. But we will see .. But they had good luck with the 883 and 1200 on the same bike with 90% wishing had gone with 1200 to start ..
I was listening to a marketing guy talk about tricks they use the other day. One of their old ones is to sell two products that are very similiar with one having more bells and whistles. They then set the price of the lesser object very near greater object. Almost always, humans will buy the greater object thinking the are getting a lot more for their money. Fact is, the mfgs are cleaning up on low cost, high margin bells and whistles.




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I think the intent has to be to get younger people attached to the HD name at an earlier age. They've chosen technology that will be akin to the Asian bikes in regards to maintenance, ride-ability, dependability and cost. The market share of the larger beasts has been dwindling while the mid-sized multipurpose bike manufacturers have seen sales increases on their mid-size models. Past management wanting to hang on to the good-ole days has been a recurring problem. Competition has driven all of HD major changes over the years and dragged them screaming into the 20th century. (are there any Davidson's with any power left?)

They have made some smaller bikes over the years but it wasn't managed well. Expanding their lineup in the Asian market is a very good move on their part but in my opinion is about 50 years late. I think these bikes may be a bit big for mass sales in those locations as well.

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I think my son and his friends are the target audience for these... The former skateboarders with their skinny-jeans, tattoos, and chain wallets who have discovered cars and bikes now. The blacked out treatment, Sons of Anarchy styling, and of course the bar and shield badge will have them feeling like badasses for sure. The young girls will be all aflutter, "He has a Harley!".

The best thing is that Sportster owners will now have someone to make fun of... no longer at the bottom of the food chain.

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I hope they sell a lot of them, the more kids on motorcycles the less in cars texting on their phones. If I was a youngster I think I would still rather have a Sportster though or a smaller cc Triumph.

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Yes there will always be the crowd that buys the bikes "cuz it's a Harley". That certainly won't make the sales numbers to save the company on it's own though. Kids today are pretty smart and unless mommy is buying the bike for them, they will spend their own money where they find they are getting the best value. Smart money will go with the least hassle which if things continue as is, will be with the "metrics".

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