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post #1 of 136 (permalink) Old 05-21-2011, 05:26 PM Thread Starter
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Well, Just got back from a 200 mile charity ride and had the strangest comment that I have ever heard about my Victory....and yes, it came from a Harley rider.....I let him try my bike...well, when he came back he told me it was "nice" but he really didn't like the ride......I asked why...? Now get this....He told me that it rode too smoothly.....Now if that doesn't get it all......LOL....Maybe someone could tell me what that means......I wonder if the guys boss gives him a raise...would he say no thanks that's too much money.......

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He's right. It's also too reliable. You don't enjoy wrenching on it as much as you would with a Harlee.

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Well, I say (being a Harley guy) that there are morons in every area of life . And just because that particular moron happened to ride a HD, certainly does not make us all stupid knuckle draggers . I know plenty of guys who ride Yamahas, and Hondas who have the same mentality .

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I had a guy explain that smooth thing to me. He told me that all the vibration that HD's have, give them soul.

I think I remember KevinX saying once that Victory made sure the engines had some vibration to give them soul.
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I had a guy explain that smooth thing to me. He told me that all the vibration that HD's have, give them soul.

I think I remember KevinX saying once that Victory made sure the engines had some vibration to give them soul.
They talk about the dialing in vibration to the motor in the book, The Making of Victory by Mike Dapper.

To be honest my sole complait about the Vision is that it is to competant, and just not raw feeling enough. So I understand hoe the HD guy felt

I'm not an asshole...I just type that way
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What struck me most about this post is that you let some Harley dude ride your bike! I will let close friends ride my machine, that's it - there is nothing to be gained and plenty to be lost...they drop it, they will want your insurance to cover it....etc

In most cases people are always trying to confirm there decisions on what they purchased, esp Harley owners. The iconic name HD closes many folks mind/decision process - it is a strong community....and has a strong following.
Smooth, reliable and quick is all good with me tho -
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Well, I say (being a Harley guy) that there are morons in every area of life . And just because that particular moron happened to ride a HD, certainly does not make us all stupid knuckle draggers . I know plenty of guys who ride Yamahas, and Hondas who have the same mentality .
Aren't all Bikers "Knuckle Draggers"...?

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The issuse is, its what is expected. A Harley rider sees a motorcycle that everyone keeps telling him is an "American" made ride, that it is years ahead of HD in technology and has a stronger faster motor. Then he gets on it and it sing like a sewing machine and is smooth as silk.

I hear this all the time after letting people ride mine. "No way its faster than my bike" that is until we go WOT at the next light and he is behind me. The vics are misleading due to them being so smooth. They expect this bike to react and feel like a big bore HD or S&S and it does not.

The suspension is also misleading. People do not relize how fast they can go into corners with the vic...

You also here this from guys who ride Triumph Rockets and Goldwings. They are smooth as silk all they way through the gears and powerband. You look down at the speedo and relize you are going way FASTER then you thought you were.

Does that mean the bike has not sole... thats the riders opinion but I say to smooth can lead to that feeling. I had a guy on a goldwing tell me that it felt like he was riding an electric bike and that he could hardly tell it was running. Some people like that.

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Being a Harley rider, at least until Thursday when I take deliver of a 2011 White Silver XC, I can understand his comment.

The XC is a much better bike, in all categories, but its hard to admit when you've had "Harley Brain Washing". He probably has too many T-shirts to start over.

I would have bought last year if I had been able to get more in trade for the Harley, but the Vic dealers cant give much. Understandable since they'd be putting a lower performing bike on the lot.

I think Victory could put a bigger dent in the HD world if they could be competitive on trade value.

Just my .02

I am fortunately now able to buy the XC then sell off the Harley Ultra Classic.

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This is my first spring with a Victory, an XC, and I've come across three different Harley Riders who were outright hostile to my bike. When I had a Kawasaki, they ignored me, but 3 times now I've had Harley guys give me attitude.

The first time it was an older guy with a Street Glide, he asked me why I didn't save more money and get a real bike. I was too shocked for a good comeback.

Second time, driving down the street and a guy on a V-Rod pulled up beside me and started laughing, and revving his engine- I was still in break in mode and just let him take off on me. It pissed me off.

The third one was the best. I was picking up some beer, and in the parking lot there were two Harley guys with grimy softtails who asked my why I bought a girls bike. I told them that all of the a-holes bought Harleys. I might have gotten into a fight if my friends were not with me (and yes, I probably would have lost I'm not a good fighter at all).

It is funny, though, because when I had my Vulcan, they said nothing. It seems to me that there are some Harley guys that feel threatened by the Victory brand. That being said, the two biggest fans of my bike are Harley guys, and one might be switching.
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