Tire help! - Victory Forums - Victory Motorcycle Forum
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 01-17-2014, 06:51 PM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
jokerman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: PHOENIX, AZ
Posts: 381
Question Tire help!

Getting close to 20K on my OEM front tire & looking for recommended replacement. I definitely want something that will last up to 20K like the Dunlop. My major issue is the handling in the tar snakes, With a rider on the back, running thru the twisties on fresh tar snakes, I had my hands full....felt like I was driving on ice! My son runs a Metzler on his front & had the same experience, plus I know the Metz is not known for high mileage. I am considering going Bridgestone, based on past experience on a Jap bike, or maybe looking at the new Michelin Commander. However I have heard that the Mich is biased ply & if that is the case, I would not even consider it.
I am open to any suggestions gang. Riding a 2012 Vision.

Thanks!

JOKERMAN

"THERE IS NO SUBSTITUTE FOR VICTORY" General Douglas MacArthur
jokerman is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 14 (permalink) Old 01-18-2014, 02:54 PM
Lifetime Premium
 
gibson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: North east Indiana
Posts: 1,181
Default

If the Dunlop lasted that long , what makes you think another brand would last longer?

2012 Fireball Jackpot
gibson is offline  
post #3 of 14 (permalink) Old 01-18-2014, 03:16 PM
Senior Member
 
visionjohnny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: minnesota
Posts: 12,949
Default

DIDN"T you ask this just the other day

2008 Vision
Mpls, MN.

Please add your state and model of bike you have. Click user CP @ top of page and then far left click edit signature. Thanks
visionjohnny is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 14 (permalink) Old 01-18-2014, 03:17 PM
Lifetime Premium
 
saddlebag's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Dayton, Ohio
Posts: 5,632
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jokerman View Post
Getting close to 20K on my OEM front tire & looking for recommended replacement. I definitely want something that will last up to 20K like the Dunlop. My major issue is the handling in the tar snakes, With a rider on the back, running thru the twisties on fresh tar snakes, I had my hands full....felt like I was driving on ice! My son runs a Metzler on his front & had the same experience, plus I know the Metz is not known for high mileage. I am considering going Bridgestone, based on past experience on a Jap bike, or maybe looking at the new Michelin Commander. However I have heard that the Mich is biased ply & if that is the case, I would not even consider it.
I am open to any suggestions gang. Riding a 2012 Vision.

Thanks!
You should add your bike to your sig for more specific replies.

A general response is that you aren't going to find a tire that sticks on hot tar snakes. Stick your finger in freshly chewed gum and move it to the right. Your finger won't slide on the gum, if the gum is gooey, it will change forms under your finger. The same thing happens when you run over a hot tar snake.

There is plenty of internet folklore of certain brands of tires sticking on all kinds of surfaces like wet paint. Watch a motorcycle road race in the rain sometime. Those guys are using the grippiest rubber compounds known to man and they will slide right into the sand traps everytime they hit it. What are the odds we are going to do better on some tire compound that is compromise between grip and longevity?




https://www.victoryforums.com/signaturepics/sigpic6903_1.gif
2011 Cross Roads
saddlebag is offline  
post #5 of 14 (permalink) Old 01-18-2014, 09:15 PM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
jokerman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: PHOENIX, AZ
Posts: 381
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by visionjohnny View Post
DIDN"T you ask this just the other day
I guess it is forbidden to post more than 1 thread? Gee, sorry.

JOKERMAN

"THERE IS NO SUBSTITUTE FOR VICTORY" General Douglas MacArthur
jokerman is offline  
post #6 of 14 (permalink) Old 01-18-2014, 09:18 PM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
jokerman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: PHOENIX, AZ
Posts: 381
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by saddlebag View Post
You should add your bike to your sig for more specific replies.

A general response is that you aren't going to find a tire that sticks on hot tar snakes. Stick your finger in freshly chewed gum and move it to the right. Your finger won't slide on the gum, if the gum is gooey, it will change forms under your finger. The same thing happens when you run over a hot tar snake.

There is plenty of internet folklore of certain brands of tires sticking on all kinds of surfaces like wet paint. Watch a motorcycle road race in the rain sometime. Those guys are using the grippiest rubber compounds known to man and they will slide right into the sand traps everytime they hit it. What are the odds we are going to do better on some tire compound that is compromise between grip and longevity?
Saddlebag, it clearly states I am on a "12 Vison in my post. Anyway, I never really thought of the tar snakes the way you describe them. Really makes a lot of since. Perhaps I should not nock the Dunlops after all.

JOKERMAN

"THERE IS NO SUBSTITUTE FOR VICTORY" General Douglas MacArthur
jokerman is offline  
post #7 of 14 (permalink) Old 01-18-2014, 10:44 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Buckeye, Az.
Posts: 1,425
Default Get what you want

If you want the Avons go for it. I have the Avon Venoms on my XRs now. Will they last as long as the Dunlops? Hopefully, but if they do not I will probably get the Avons again. But go with the brand you want, and if they make you happy great if not, try that other brand. Good luck on those tyres!

Buckeye, Arizona(USA) 2011 Victory Cross Roads, Black police bag guards, black engine guards, black handle bars, Triumph Tiger mirrors, Triumph hand grips, set speedo/tach back 5" , adjustable timing wheel, Lloyzz Fuel Programmer III & air filter. Modified exhaust, made stock into 2 into 1. MRA windshield, Rotated front fender forward,relocated ignition switch, Bad Ace Fuel Tank Risers, Fat front tire.
Speedblue is offline  
post #8 of 14 (permalink) Old 01-19-2014, 04:39 AM
Lifetime Premium
 
GatorJoe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Lake City, FL
Posts: 1,018
Garage
Default

Give Avons a Shot .. Can always go back to OEM if not happy with them .. Love the Avon Cobra's on my 12 XC ..

2017 Indian Chieftain Dark Horse/2005 Dyna Super Glide
GatorJoe is offline  
post #9 of 14 (permalink) Old 01-19-2014, 08:17 AM
Super Moderator
 
vindex1963's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Phoenix
Posts: 4,917
Default

Just put Avon Cobras on my Vegas seems good but they always do when you replace old worn out tires with brand new ones.

2015 Cross Country (bought new 7/11/15)
2015 Suzuki V-Strom DL650 (bought new 4/26/17)
2006 Triumph Rocket III Classic
1/4 turn throttle ring
Tank riser
VM-1 DR cams
Timing wheel +4
Lloydz high-flow air cleaner
Bassani baffled OEM mufflers
PC-V 118hp 116tq
If it's not broke, make it better
vindex1963 is offline  
post #10 of 14 (permalink) Old 01-19-2014, 11:57 AM
Senior Member
 
visionjohnny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: minnesota
Posts: 12,949
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jokerman View Post
I guess it is forbidden to post more than 1 thread? Gee, sorry.
You can post all the thread you want BUT you did ask the same question some time back

You didn't get the answer you wanted so now your posting it again.

Why did you just keep the old thread going.

2008 Vision
Mpls, MN.

Please add your state and model of bike you have. Click user CP @ top of page and then far left click edit signature. Thanks
visionjohnny is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Victory Forums - Victory Motorcycle Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools Search this Thread
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome