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Default Had my first "debate" with my H-D riding in-laws

I now realize that a great deal of harley owners truly do think their bikes are the best in every aspect, including build quality and reliability. Somewhere in the discussion i was actually told, "i ride harleys, because they are the best engineered and most reliable bikes on the road." Regardless of how many engineering and statistical facts i presented, they still insist on drinking the kool-aid. I was also told,"your victory will have problems long before any of my harleys will," meanwhile, my new-to-me hammer has 40k miles of neglect, and his TC88 fatboy has 12k as it develops a rattle in the top end, and his road glide has less than 5k mikes with a smell of burning oil when i ride behind him.

He also mentioned that the harleys are the only ones NOT overheating on long rides in south texas while all the "yamahas, kawasakis, and victories" are pulled off the road cooling off. Somehow i find it very difficult to believe that air-cooled bikes resist over-heating better than water-cooled or oil/air-cooled bikes.

Don't get me wrong... I REALLY like twin cam harleys, but their owners make the bikes very difficult not to hate.

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I bought my first victory because a friend of mine a diehard Harley rider told me that I should go with victory over Harley. because less down time and a lot more riding time with victory

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Just leave them be. Ignorance is bliss, so don't ruin it for them. Enjoy your Vic.

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I now realize that a great deal of harley owners truly do think their bikes are the best in every aspect, including build quality and reliability. Somewhere in the discussion i was actually told, "i ride harleys, because they are the best engineered and most reliable bikes on the road." Regardless of how many engineering and statistical facts i presented, they still insist on drinking the kool-aid. I was also told,"your victory will have problems long before any of my harleys will," meanwhile, my new-to-me hammer has 40k miles of neglect, and his TC88 fatboy has 12k as it develops a rattle in the top end, and his road glide has less than 5k mikes with a smell of burning oil when i ride behind him.

He also mentioned that the harleys are the only ones NOT overheating on long rides in south texas while all the "yamahas, kawasakis, and victories" are pulled off the road cooling off. Somehow i find it very difficult to believe that air-cooled bikes resist over-heating better than water-cooled or oil/air-cooled bikes.

Don't get me wrong... I REALLY like twin cam harleys, but their owners make the bikes very difficult not to hate.
Total prisoners of the "Hardley hype".. Enjoy your Victory and let them enjoy their fantasy...


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I think your "friend" was trying to convince himself.

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Yep, it's truly sad. I rode HD's for 30 years and even then I'd listen to this crap n shake my head. I can relate numerous stories of issues I've had with them. But really, why bother. I know what I know and I'm quite happy with my XCT.
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Arguing with a Harley rider is like arguing with a liberal. They think on emotion (Harley cult) instead of facts and logic. You'll never convince them of anything becaue you would have to change their thought process before they could understand your points. Ironically, we do have some liberals on here that see the value of a Victory yet still think that other way on other things.
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Just keep riding with him and see who has problems first then just give him a smile and thumbs up and offer your phone so he can call for help.
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Yes you can not change the way some think(or feel). Let them dream on. Yes that beautiful lady you see on TV is a knock out, now she is on here 6th marriage,must be a reason for that.----Some love the machine no matter how much trouble, ---Another bike brand,talk to some of the old Triumph guys. Old Triumh guys, some not all, will tell you best bike every made. I had one of the old ones from the old factory,yes it was great fun to ride. Got very tired of working on it. Also bought one of the new ones in "05". The "new Triumph" was a great bike to ride,not as much charater, but I could ride it without a tool kit with me. So was the old one(1978) the best? No not for me. Was it pretty? Yes in my eyes. Do I still have it, no I divorced her and she move to NewZealand by way of ship.

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i got a few harley friends and i don't try to debate with them. its like talking to a wall.

i have had a few good comments from them and a few misconceptions from them also.

one friend says .... i see you got a canadian bike . at least it ain't a jap bike. i said its made in america .. look it up.

another one good looking bike . it almost sounds like a harley.

another asksd why did you buy a victory instead of a harley. i said cheaper to purchase and cheaper to maintain. he had no reply lol.
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