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post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old 07-13-2011, 11:21 PM Thread Starter
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right now i have an 06 harley deluxe and i LOVE it, but the problem is, im doing alot of long rides across canada for work since im gettting tasked to go teach all the time. Im currently in alberta at cfb wainwright teaching basic.

What im looking for is a good touring bike, with plenty of space i can bring the essentials but not have a giant touring bag on the back. and fairing is a must, my removable windshield is not really cutting it.

I have been looking at the cross country and started to dabble over in the vision area.

Right now the choices im looking at are
HD Road Glide
Cross Country for that traditional styling
Vision, but what i dont like about the vision is the signal lights and the tail lights. is there a way to change them out or tint them or anything?
I do like how the 8ball vision looks like a custom bagger already
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Yup, go ride one.
i'm not sure if there is a Victory dealer in Wainwright, but if you are in the Edmonton area, go see Elk Island. If you have a question on any bike, they can answer it for you.

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post #4 of 20 (permalink) Old 07-14-2011, 07:13 AM
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Go out to a dealership to Ride them, i've ridden Both and i'd be hard pressed to choose one over the other, both great bikes.

One of the Guys at my Sqn was a harley guy and decided to test ride a vision...now he owns it!

You can tint the lights on a vision if you want, I believe HMD as done it to theirs
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You want a fairing? The fairing on an XC is pretty much the same as the fairing on a Road Glide. The biggest difference is that you can't get lower fairings on the XC unless you change the highway bars to the tubular style.

You want space? XR / XC have the biggest hardbags on the market. You could probably get a Road Glide with soft bags which HD recently made larger. This would give you a slight space advantage (I think 12 sq inches per bag) over the XR / XC hardbags.

You want tinted lights? Heavy Metal Designz (hmd520.com) has an exchange program for the turn signals and brake lights on the XR / XC and for the brake light on the Vision.

You didn't mention is power. If you get the 103 the HD has more low end but Victory will best it on the highway. If you opt for the 110 kit Victory will leave you behind at any speed. You can get more power from either but most people are happy wth what the Victory comes with.

You didn't mention accessories. HD has more availabe and they are cheaper. Victory only has support from a few aftermarket companies. You can find 10 or more slipons for the HD, you can find 2 for the Victory (Ness and D&D). If all you want is a little more sound you can mod the Victory slipons for free.

If you want comfort you could buy a new seat for the HD (dozens of choices) which would make it almost as comfortable as the Victory. The Victory has more suspension so it is easier to find a happy place. If you aren't happy with the Victory seat Corbin is the only option for replacement but there are dozens of shops that mod seats.

Test ride both! Victory will let you test longer and farther so the ride may sell you!

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+1 on Elk Island Sales. Fantastic service and they usually have a great selection. i would not hesitate to recommend them to anyone. Please do yourself a favor and ride one.....the only desicion you will have is betrween the models.....I would guess you will rule the HD out pretty soon.....

Good luck on your choice and welcome to Alberta......always great to see a fellow two wheeler.

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right now i have an 06 harley deluxe and i LOVE it, but the problem is, im doing alot of long rides across canada for work since im gettting tasked to go teach all the time. Im currently in alberta at cfb wainwright teaching basic.

What im looking for is a good touring bike, with plenty of space i can bring the essentials but not have a giant touring bag on the back. and fairing is a must, my removable windshield is not really cutting it.

I have been looking at the cross country and started to dabble over in the vision area.

Right now the choices im looking at are
HD Road Glide
Cross Country for that traditional styling
Vision, but what i dont like about the vision is the signal lights and the tail lights. is there a way to change them out or tint them or anything?
I do like how the 8ball vision looks like a custom bagger already
I am considering a Vic myself. Smooth like a Softail, but better ergos, more, more power, better ground clearance, you know, the stuff that matters to riders.

I just did a demo day so this stuff is pretty fresh in my mind and here are my observations:

1. Victory is just as silly as Harley when it comes to making things
in cartoon proportions. I rode a lowered Hammer a few weeks back and didn't particularly care for the handling. I rode one again yesterday that wasn't lowered and while the suspension felt more forgiving, the thing still felt as unstable in corners as the lowered one. I suppose riding on the edge of a car tire is an acquired taste.

2. The Cross Country felt large, but once on the road it made one feel snug as a bug in a rug. I could have ridden that thing across two states without ever moving a muscle. I would probably get bed sores if I owned that one.

3. I re-rode the Kingpin too as I rather liked that one the
first time. The second time didn't disappoint either. It feels like a moped compared to the Cross Country. Nimble and light, though it lacks the CC's blaring stereo and capacious luggage.

4. A note about all of the Vics and Harley's too: WTF is with the
kickstands? Why don't these bikes die if you put them in gear with the damn stand down?!

5. The Victory Vision was a wonderfully executed machine save one
area. First the good parts:
a) Fairing is frame mounted, not fork mounted.
b) Electrically adjustable windscreen
c) Frame sliders that allow the 900 lb gorilla to be picked up with a
pinkie.
d) HID lamp standard
e) Heated seat and grips standard.
f) Enormous Top box
g) Outstanding ground clearance for that type of bike even with
floorboards that let you ride it any way from a racer boy crouch to a
Lazy boy couch.

Now the bad part:
h) What happened to the side bags? I'd be lucky to store a sock on each side. Granted, the bike is shaped like a sexy women, but fer crise sakes, give her some hips! This is a touring bike already.

6. One final note. As much as I wanted Victory to be as good as
Japanese bikes, they weren't...and not because of the comfort or ride which is best in class across the board AFAIC. What lowered my view of it was the little crap. Colored wires hanging off the battery that could have easily been tucked behind the side cover, or covered with a black conduit, or even covered in black electrical tape.

I currently ride a Yamaha Warrior which is blessed with R1 brakes so I didn't really expect any of the Vics to hang in that dept and they didn't. To my surprise, the Kingpin seemed better to me than both the dual front disk Vics I rode and was quite adequate, though I hope they put ABS on them next year.

The Kingpin and Hammer seemed to run as strong as the Warrior and a damn sight smoother while doing it. The Cross Country didn't seem as peppy, though it was probably because I felt more like I was in a cocoon and isolated from the world or it could be the others just made more racket.

Another slight annoyance was that every time the salesman would go to open a bag or lock a gas cover or anything that required a key, the latching mechanisms would not co-operate and he'd have to make excuses about them, like that they had been abused by demo riders. None of the bikes had much over 10 k miles on them.

Finally, the most serious issue that causes me to
rethink the brand is their transmissions. They are all heavy and
clunky. I could live with that as Victory makes a wonderful heal
shifter that works great and doesn't take up any area of the
floorboards that would prevent me from moving my foot around. But while on the Cross Country, not once, but twice did the damn bike pop out of second gear into neutral. None of the other bikes did that so, maybe there was something wrong with it, but a bike that can't stay in gear is a something that will make me pause for further consideration...



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Once you ride the Victory, you probably won't go back to a Harley.

No more of that annoying teeth-rattling vibration for no reason.. the Vics are smooth.

No more wondering "wtf, is that sound normal?" with all the clunking and rattling that the Harley does, the Vic will feel and sound like the quality you're paying for.

I'll admit, I have a huge hard-on for H-D, and keep trying to buy one, but every time I ride one I am sorely let down. If I'm paying $20k, $25k and more, I expect it to look, feel and sound like the quality level I am paying for. Victory, much like Triumph, give you far more bang for the buck over H-D.

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Thanks for the info guys!

Right now ive been leaning towards the Vision 8ball, mainly because its something different and im not looking for a huge bagger but something with bags....if you kinda understand what im saying.

This sunday myself and another instructor out here are going to go for a ride to either edmonton or lloydminister for the day so hopefully we can stop in at a shop thats open.

Just wondering, is there a chance to put a stereo into a vision 8ball?

Thanks again
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[QUOTE=2. The Cross Country felt large, but once on the road it made one feel snug as a bug in a rug. I could have ridden that thing across two states without ever moving a muscle. I would probably get bed sores if I owned that one.

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OK all you Vision riders. Here's a comment from a fresh minded observer to Victory. Yes I'm sure the Vision is a great machine if you want to be akin to a Goldwing rider but For me the XC has it all from all angles.
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