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No, lack of ear plug use is responsible for hearing lose.IMHO

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No, lack of ear plug use is responsible for hearing lose.IMHO
I completely agree with you, Tarzan. That article the link gets you to is further proof anyone can put anything on the Internet.

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Wind noise with or without a helmet is damaging, so I wear earplugs. No worries.

I'd rather be 65 with ringing in my ears than 45 in a coma or casket due to not wearing a helmet.

But since I wear earplugs, I don't have to make that choice.

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I completely agree with you, Tarzan. That article the link gets you to is further proof anyone can put anything on the Internet.
What are you trying to say here? That the author is wrong to reference a peer reviewed scientific study? Or that the author is an idiot because he doesnt agree with you?
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Wind noise with or without a helmet is damaging, so I wear earplugs. No worries.

I'd rather be 65 with ringing in my ears than 45 in a coma or casket due to not wearing a helmet.

But since I wear earplugs, I don't have to make that choice.
You should really stop saying 'Wind noise is damaging' as if it's that simple. Wind noise is POTENTIALLY damaging, based on how fast you are driving. You can drive along all day at 30 MPH and your ears will be fine. You can drive for 30 minutes at 65 MPH and be fine. But driving for a few hours at 75 MPH puts your hearing at risk. The faster you ride, the shorter the riding time that's safe. Is that really so hard to be honest about?

There's a nice chart here that people should check out: http://www.hearingtestlabs.com/motorcycle.htm
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You should really stop saying 'Wind noise is damaging' as if it's that simple. Wind noise is POTENTIALLY damaging, based on how fast you are driving. You can drive along all day at 30 MPH and your ears will be fine. You can drive for 30 minutes at 65 MPH and be fine. But driving for a few hours at 75 MPH puts your hearing at risk. The faster you ride, the shorter the riding time that's safe. Is that really so hard to be honest about?

There's a nice chart here that people should check out: http://www.hearingtestlabs.com/motorcycle.htm
You're so right.

Driving into a brick wall at 55mph is POTENTIALLY damaging. Some have walked away, so it's not an absolute.

Though common sense would dictate... meh, nevermind.

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The blog article is a half-truth.

It states only one position: Wearing a helmet while riding a motorcycle can contribute to hearing loss.

What it doesn't do is:

- Test wind noise on an actual motorcycle. The tests were done in a wind tunnel
- Test wind noise without a helmet on and compare with a helmet on
- Mention anything about (much less test) wearing hearing protection aside from "helmet manufacturers [...] design quieter helmets"

I don't think any reasonable person would suggest that motorcycle riders shouldn't wear helmets.

As to the chart linked to in a previous post, it's on a page offering "Mobile Hearing Test" services. The journal referenced in the blog post you linked to may be independent, but the same can't be said for the providers of that chart.

I, for one, would wonder at the point and purpose of posting such an article. In and of itself it's interesting, but without the comparative tests above, the data is practically useless beyond "maybe they can make helmets quieter". Show me that helmets are louder and cause more ear damage than not wearing a helmet and you would have my attention. Regardless, earplugs are certainly recommended, and I do use them.

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The blog article is a half-truth.

It states only one position: Wearing a helmet while riding a motorcycle can contribute to hearing loss.

What it doesn't do is:

- Test wind noise on an actual motorcycle. The tests were done in a wind tunnel
- Test wind noise without a helmet on and compare with a helmet on
- Mention anything about (much less test) wearing hearing protection aside from "helmet manufacturers [...] design quieter helmets"

I don't think any reasonable person would suggest that motorcycle riders shouldn't wear helmets.

As to the chart linked to in a previous post, it's on a page offering "Mobile Hearing Test" services. The journal referenced in the blog post you linked to may be independent, but the same can't be said for the providers of that chart.

I, for one, would wonder at the point and purpose of posting such an article. In and of itself it's interesting, but without the comparative tests above, the data is practically useless beyond "maybe they can make helmets quieter". Show me that helmets are louder and cause more ear damage than not wearing a helmet and you would have my attention. Regardless, earplugs are certainly recommended, and I do use them.
Earplugs are definitely a good idea if you're going to exceed 40 MPH. I dont know that they should be recommended below that speed though. You are still deadening your senses, and at low speeds it's not necessary to protect from the wind noise.

This is one of the things that bug me about every one of Bandit's posts. He's absolutely incapable of identifying that not every rider is exactly the same as him. Some people dont have loud pipes, and some people ride back roads all day without hitting the highway. For that kind of riding it's flat our wrong to say that wind noise will damage your hearing.
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There many variables here, as we are all aware, and any conclusive statement needs to take all factors into account. Just off the top of my head and mentioned here:

- Helmet or no
- Type of helmet (full/flip/three-quarter/half)
- Earplugs or no
- Loudness of pipes
- Riding speed
- Riding environment (highway/city/backroads, etc)
- Duration of exposure

Generalizing with only one or two data points would result in largely inaccurate conclusions in any case with this many variables.

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